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Original message:597 days 20 hours 4 minutes ago
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Knowing where to find each note on the fretboard is important in finding your way around, especially when you try to locate where the next chord should be or where to play to be in the key your friends are playing in etc.

This is what I consider to be a least boring method of learning your fretboard.

Instead of spending your practice time playing notes on the fretboard repeatedly and reciting their names, use that time to practice your finger techniques/songs. You can learn the notes without holding a guitar. Being able to identify a note just by hearing it is a thing few people are able to do anyway. You can try to train your ear to identify the notes later on. It is not so important.

Here's what to do:
When your mind is idling (ie in the bus, at a red traffic light, while in the shower etc) picture a fretboard with your mind. Restrict yourself to frets 0 through 12. Select one of the natural notes ( they're only seven: C_D_E F_G_A B_C ) and find every place this note is found on each string within those first 12 frets. Of course you have to know how a guitar is tuned, and how the notes are spaced, to do that. Try to visualize these spots, don't leave them in the form of sterile numbers. Now recite the numbers while visualizing them. If you have time, after a while select another note and repeat. No more than two notes at each session, because you may start mixing them up. Stick with two or three notes for a few sessions before moving on.
Once you have found where a few of the notes are, the rest should be easy to find. Also, the reason you don't need to expand your reciting past the 12th fret is that the the pattern of notes will be exactly the same, just an octave higher (add +12 to every fret number in the pattern). Knowing where the natural notes are, you can easily find their sharps and flats

The advantage of this is that your knowledge of the notes becomes independent from your finger memory (and you save practice time while make something useful out of mentally idle moments).

For example, on a regularly tuned guitar ( low to high: EADgbe ), you'll find "E" in the following places:
6th string: frets 0(low E) 12(2nd octave E)
5th : 7
4th : 2
3rd : 9(second octave E)
2nd : 5
1st : 0 12(3rd octave E)


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Reply:596 days 12 hours 50 minutes ago
Member: ibzRG
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This is the example above in format of a fretboard diagram as you should visualize it when practicing:

E||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|--E-|
b ||-------|-------|-------|------|--E--|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
g ||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|--E-|-----|-----|-----|
d ||-------|---E--|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
a ||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|---E-|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
E||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-E--|

This is the same done for C:

e||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|--C-|-----|-----|-----|-----|
b||--C---|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
g||-------|-------|-------|------|---C-|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
d||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|--C-|-----|-----|
a||-------|-------|--C---|------|------|------|------|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|
e||-------|-------|-------|------|------|------|------|--C-|-----|-----|-----|-----|


Normally I intended to include the fret marker dots with the diagrams, but the non-monospaced font makes a mess out of any effort too easily.

I think it is easier to isolate one note at a time and learn where to find it, than to go through all the notes on the fretboard every time.

Start with C and E. Then do G. It is better not to pick consecutive notes to learn at the same time. It is easy to mix them up. Also once you get a solid grip on those three, all the others are only one tone or semitone away from one of the three, so finding them even on the fly, shouldn't be a problem.


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Reply:584 days 6 hours ago
Member: Chris
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Killer shit here. I tend to learn patterns on the fretboard, of course mostlhy in the box. I shall commit to learning my notes. Thanks for this.

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Reply:556 days 9 hours ago
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ok sorry a little off topic but...
YOU PLAYED AT A NATIONALS GAME!!! SWEET!!!
though i must say a Jimi Hendrix rendition would have been awesome
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Reply:555 days 12 hours 32 minutes ago
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Thanks - ballparks usually say "NO JIMI HENDRIX" and frankly, so many people do that, I tend to play it straight-froward. I got tired of people adding notes, changing keys, etc... figured Id do it straight up.

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Reply:581 days 11 hours 52 minutes ago
Member: ibzRG
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Ah... somebody paid attention after all.

Your welcome!



I made a blog entry out of this:
http://www.guitar.com/kimonf_blog_learn_your_fretboard_finding_the_notes
where I was able to correct some errors and add some more info.


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Reply:572 days 21 hours 21 minutes ago
Member: Ruge
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I'm paying attention too.......good training tool.
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Reply:570 days 5 hours 57 minutes ago
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Well done, dude.
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Reply:569 days 17 minutes ago
Member: ibzRG
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UPDATE: Alternative methods now included in my blog entry.

http://www.guitar.com/kimonf_blog_learn_your_fretboard_finding_the_notes

Because different things work for different people.
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Reply:555 days 18 hours 40 minutes ago
Member: Jason Messick
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This is a pretty nifty little freeware program that could be useful. It also has a ton of chords and scales as reference.

Advanced FretPro v.2.0

http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_16_167_20831.html
Reply:555 days 14 hours 24 minutes ago
Member: ibzRG
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For those (like me) who like to learn stuff by use of it, this is indeed a cool program. Mind if I use the link in my blog?
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Reply:555 days 9 hours 19 minutes ago
Member: Jason Messick
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I'm sure the developers don't mind free publicity.

I just joined up here, is there a place to put up links to useful software? Another one I came across is GNU Solfege for ear training. Intervals, chords, scales, modes. A particularly cool feature is you can have it show a fretboard. It will show you one note and play an interval and you click on the fret of the second note.

http://www.solfege.org/
Reply:555 days 1 hours 29 minutes ago
Member: ibzRG
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Yeah I know about solfege, but had forgotten about it. I didn't succeed in running it on my linux machine. Missing settings and stuff that I don't know how to fix.
Anyway, it is not about learning your fretboard though, but if they make it for windows PCs too, it would be cool directing people to it..


There are three ways:

Your bookmarks: are visible to other members visiting your profile page
Your favourites: for your personal use
Both of these are available to yourself on your G homepage.

The third way is to put it in a blog entry and try to get it publicized as educational, so that it gets featured in the Get Educated section.
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Reply:550 days 7 hours 52 minutes ago
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Just starting out and this is going to help my sight reading alot.
Thanks
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