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Original message:56 days 9 hours ago
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Just wondering if anybody has any opinion on whether listening to music, guitar through headphones can cause hearing damage? I practice through headphnes almost always. Sometimes this is several hours a day. Thorugh the headphones, I run my guitar, metronome, and CD player. Sometimes it can get loud. Anyway, I just read this article on headphones and hearing damage and get me to thinking. Should I buy a decibel meter or something to make sure the music is at a non-harmful voume? Any experiences?
Reply:55 days 13 hours 47 minutes ago
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Headphones or no headphones, loud noise/sound will lead to ear damage and hearing loss. With headphones it's just even easier because they are pointed directly onto your eardrums and it takes much less volume to cause damage.

I practice with headphones too. Just turn the volume down. You need to be able to hear yourself but you don't need to blast it into your ears. It kills the rockstar feel but it saves your ears.
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Reply:55 days 8 hours 34 minutes ago
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You gotta be real' careful, with playing to loud... specially headphones. I know i sound a lil' old folks-talk like now, but its true... i've got a tinitus on my right ear that come and goes. i can sit in all silence and then just suddenly... peeeeeeep, then not as fast as it came, it disappears.
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Reply:54 days 9 hours 4 minutes ago
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My advice is to get the best headphones you can afford. This way you get clarity without having to crank the volume. Inner ear pieces are nice too because they block out surrounding noise so, again, you do not have to crank the volume to hear what you are playing.

I have a set of AKG K240s that I am very happy with.
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Reply:54 days 8 hours 9 minutes ago
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What I've heard is that while canalphones don't need to be as loud, they do more damage because the sound is so focused. I have been told that studio style headphones are the best, but they don't fit in my pocket quite so well.
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Reply:54 days 8 hours 1 minutes ago
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Damage is done by decible level, not by the type of headphones you wear. In most cases decible level is measured as "ambient" and not what directly enters your ear. The fact remains that too many db is going to cause damage.

Noise-Induced Hearing Loss (NIHL)

Of the roughly 40 million Americans suffering from hearing loss, 10 million can be attributed to noise-induced hearing loss (NIHL). NIHL can be caused by a one-time exposure to loud sound as well as by repeated exposure to sounds at various loudness levels over an extended period of time. Damage happens to the microscopic hair cells found inside the cochlea. These cells respond to mechanical sound vibrations by sending an electrical signal to the auditory nerve. Different groups of hair cells are responsible for different frequencies (rate of vibrations). The healthy human ear can hear frequencies ranging from 20Hz to 20,000 Hz. Over time, the hair cell's hair-like stereocilia may get damaged or broken. If enough of them are damaged, hearing loss results. The high frequency area of the cochlea is often damaged by loud sound.

Sound pressure is measured in decibels (dB). Like a temperature scale, the decibel scale goes below zero. The average person can hear sounds down to about 0 dB, the level of rustling leaves. Some people with very good hearing can hear sounds down to -15 dB. If a sound reaches 85 dB or stronger, it can cause permanent damage to your hearing. The amount of time you listen to a sound affects how much damage it will cause. The quieter the sound, the longer you can listen to it safely. If the sound is very quiet, it will not cause damage even if you listen to it for a very long time; however, exposure to some common sounds can cause permanent damage. With extended exposure, noises that reach a decibel level of 85 can cause permanent damage to the hair cells in the inner ear, leading to hearing loss. Many common sounds may be louder than you think…

A typical conversation occurs at 60 dB - not loud enough to cause damage.
A bulldozer that is idling (note that this is idling, not actively bulldozing) is loud enough at 85 dB that it can cause permanent damage after only 1 work day (8 hours).
When listening to music on earphones at a standard volume level 5, the sound generated reaches a level of 100 dB, loud enough to cause permanent damage after just 15 minutes per day!
A clap of thunder from a nearby storm (120 dB) or a gunshot (140-190 dB, depending on weapon), can both cause immediate damage.

In fact, noise is probably the most common occupational hazard facing people today. It is estimated that as many as 30 million Americans are exposed to potentially harmful sounds at work. Even outside of work, many people participate in recreational activities that can produce harmful noise (musical concerts, use of power tools, etc.). Sixty million Americans own firearms, and many people do not use appropriate hearing protection devices.
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Reply:54 days 7 hours 8 minutes ago
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Can your hearing get better with years without loudness?
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Reply:54 days 5 hours 49 minutes ago
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Exactly!

The advantage I was noting is that with nice headphones, you get great clarity at lower, safer volume levels.
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Reply:54 days 5 hours 48 minutes ago
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Johnny Frusciante - No. Once the damage is done, it is done.
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Reply:54 days 7 hours 56 minutes ago
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WHAT ??
Reply:54 days 7 hours 34 minutes ago
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If you think you heard something from this post, then it's worse than you thought!
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Reply:54 days 6 hours 32 minutes ago
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I heard that!
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Reply:54 days 5 hours 38 minutes ago
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WELL, I HAVE BEEN HALF DEAF SINCE I WAS A CHILD!!! MY RIGHT EAR STILL HAS A TUBE IN IT, FROM WHEN I WAS 6 YEARS OLD!!! SO I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING VERY WELL. iF YOU COULD SPEAK UP PLEASE.
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Reply:54 days 2 hours 55 minutes ago
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Pete Townsend is deaf because of head phones, at least that's what he says.
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Reply:53 days 17 hours 32 minutes ago
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Pete Townsend is partially deaf because Keith Moon decided to load three times the amount of gun powder he was supposed to use in his drum kit on "The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour." When Moon hit the switch, the explosion hit Townsend who was standing right next to the charge. Townsend's hair was singed and a peice of cymbal was lodged in his arm though Townsend seemed to casually walk it off. Most people believe this was the start of Townsend's tinitus.
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Reply:54 days 1 hours 52 minutes ago
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