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Original message:175 days 8 hours 3 minutes ago
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Hello dudes! How you doing? I hope good! I just wanted to ask how can connect my guitar in order to record the songs i play. I try to record directly from the mic with horrible results. I know that their is a cable that connects trought headphone/line out to the Guitar but the quility is not so good either. I don't want to spend much money in a new sound card with a panel but if it's the only way... . I also heard about some USB cables what's your opinion on that? Any recommendation will be helpful !
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Reply:175 days 6 hours 59 minutes ago
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You can't just plug a guitar into a computer without some kind of interface. Well, you can, but it still requires more than just a cable. USB and Firewire need digital signals. Your guitar is analog so some kind of interface is required to convert the analog signal to a digital signal. (AD/DA Converter)

DO NOT use the "MIC IN" on your sound card. It will sound bad. Even with a mic. The preamp on a standard sound card wasn't designed for the frequencies of your guitar and isn't very well made in the first place.

Get yourself a small mixer or preamp. You don't need anything fancy here. Plug your guitar into your preamp/mixer and your preamp/mixer into your LINE IN on your sound card. The LINE IN is a stereo input, meaning you will have left and right channels. You will need the proper adapters to get a clean signal.
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Reply:174 days 21 hours 17 minutes ago
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Cheap solution: If you have an amp with line-out or headphones-out, go out and buy a second guitar cable and a 1/4"->1/8" adapter plug. Use the cable to connect the line/headphones-out into the line-in of your computer. Use the adaptor at line-in end of the cable.

Turn the amp volume down and unmute your soundacrd's line-in so that you hear yourself through the PC-speakers. Make guitar noise and start increasing the amp volume, until you hear your guitar at a volume similar to other PC-sounds. If you turn the volume too high you may get ugly distortion caused by the soundcard.
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Reply:174 days 10 hours 25 minutes ago
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Reply:174 days 9 hours 19 minutes ago
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hey try a thing called steathplug ,usb at one end standard at the other ,it comes with amplitube and I record with cubase its easier than it sounds ,pricey though
Reply:174 days 8 hours 44 minutes ago
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I bought a processor with a USB line out.
It was the only way to get a clean recording, with Hi-Quality.
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Reply:174 days 3 hours 28 minutes ago
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Recording with a PC can be quite easy.
You need to have: Guitar, PC, Standard guitar cable (1/4 jack - 1/4 jack), 1/4 jack -> 1/8 jack adapter, some programs.

Now, use adapter with Your cable. Connect standard 1/4 plug to Your guitar, the other plug (1/8 with adapter) to
LINE IN or MICROPHONE input in Your computer. Then You need a VST host (program for Your PC) and
Amplifier simulator (You can download many demo versions from the internet, for ex. 30-day shareware Guitar Rig 2).

Link to download VST-host: http://www.hermannseib.com/programs/vsthost.zip
Guitar Rig 2 demo: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/php/file.php/demodownload/1552936/demos/Guitar_Rig_2_Demo_Win.zip

Install this stuff. Open VST-host click FILE --> NEW PLUGIN, and choose location of Your guitar rig 2. In the window of VST-host You will see Guitar Rig 2 demo. Choose Your amp and effects (really many many options: Marshal, Mesa, Engl and more). Record using REC button in VST-host. Enjoy.

This REALLY WORKS. This is not an experiment, just classical and cheap method of home recording with PC.
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Reply:173 days 8 hours 46 minutes ago
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Not as cheap as entirely skipping the commercial software and using a real amp (which you probably already have) and THEN send the signal to the LINE-IN only (microphone-in will always suck in quality). Then you can use Audacity (free) to record and process the analog sound.
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Reply:173 days 3 hours 51 minutes ago
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But method I wrote about is free too.
There are many free simulators, for ex. Freeamp etc.
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Reply:173 days 1 hours 13 minutes ago
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Demos are not free for ever.
I have never used amp simulator software, so that part I cannot recommend for or against.
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Reply:172 days 15 hours 13 minutes ago
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You can use almost any interface, but for starters, go to radioshack and buy a little instrument cord to headphone jack for like 2 bucks. Hook it up to the mic jack and your good to go man.
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Reply:172 days 6 hours 52 minutes ago
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DO NOT USE THE "MIC IN" INPUT ON YOUR SOUNDCARD!!!!!!!!!

You are sending a LINE signal to the card from your guitar. If you really don't like your soundcard, go ahead and plug in there. The additional voltage carried by the line signal will soon trash the mic in and you'll only be able to use the line in anyway. Unless, of course, you trash the whole card. I've seen it happen.

The REAL deal. The mic in has a really crappy, not controllable, solid state preamp. (Better cards don't even pretend to have a mic input. You will get BALANCED inputs which are also LINE inputs. USB and Firewire require something to convert the analog signal to a digital signal before the signal heads through the cable.) While it will work for cheap mics, it is also not designed for the frequencies that come from your guitar. Aside from getting a line signal from your guitar, which is higher voltage than a mic signal, you won't be able to pass all your guitar's frequencies through that input either. This means that your recordings will also sound thin and be more difficult to work with.

LINE IN ONLY!!! (Remember this is a STEREO input so you get TWO recording channels.)

MIC IN IS FOR CRAPPY COMPUTER MICS ONLY!

Next thing you know people will be wanting to know how to record in "stereo." THERE IS NO SUCH THING! All recording signals are mono. Yes you can record two tracks at the same time, but they are two mono tracks and YOU create the stereo sound because it is an effect controlled by pan.

And to save any further wasted discussion... There is no single sound in nature that is stereo. ALL natural sound eminates from a single source. ALL natural sound is mono. If you think you're hearing stereo, it's because of all the bouncing the sound does once created. You have two ears that allow you to discern where a sound is coming from and because you have two ears stereo is a great effect to get the most out of a presentation. 5.1 is even better if done correctly. But the sounds we start with in ANY mix are MONO sounds.
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Reply:172 days 5 hours 49 minutes ago
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well ya know if studios didn't charge an arm and a leg and a first born male child for recording then everybody would use them. I have been in a pro studio and while it was a great experience and it was worth the money(30 an hour) not everyone can afford it.



Now that being said, you can get good recordings, not pro recordings, but decent enough for a bedroom player or gararge band useing that crappy pc mic or running other mics to a small mixer and then running the output into the mic in on a PC, IT CAN BE DONE. You don't have to have a line in. Although I would use this method to just record stuff for the purpose of remembering not to burn a demo.

If your group can afford to do a couple hours at a time you can talk to studios and see if they will allow you to do it this way, just make sure they aren't chargin you during set up time, just actual recording time. Use the first session to get the drumms and a scratch guitar track and go from there.
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Reply:172 days 4 hours 59 minutes ago
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Man, you think $30 an hour is a LOT! You need to look a lot closer at what studios really charge! Most studios charging $30 an hour or less are very low end studios. $30 an hour is nothing. (I make more than that on my regular day job!) Many area studios here run from $50 to $200/hour. (Though we only charge students $17.50/hr.) When you spend thousands on a single mic or single pre someone is going to pay for it in the long run. Studios are expensive because recording gear is not cheap.

Gear alone, in my studio, cost just shy of $50,000 and I'm on the low side of mid-range. Include the necessary construction and the costs of just opening a "mid-range" studio are pretty high. Lots of these studios have popped up because people think that with emulators you can make crappy mics sound like Neumans, or that you can emulate an LA2A or 1179, or get the same compression as a Manley Slam, or that a 2-610 can be built with just software and you can get all the make believe tube flavor you want for next to nothing. It just doesn't work that way. Emulators are just that and, while some sound pretty good, NONE of them actually come all that close to what the actual unit does. It's still digital and it's still brittle.

Add to that the room you record in is a little bit more important than the gear you use. A good acoustically designed room will cost you upwards of $20,000 in design costs alone. I know this for a fact because my discipline is acoustic engineering. I've got a GREAT room that everyone who walks in the door comments on. Though I don't need their comments to know what I've got, the fact they feel compelled to point it out, just confirms we've got a really good space.

One other thing adds to studio costs. Do you have an engineer who actually knows what he's doing? Or is it some guy who made this his hobby? I have a full time engineer, (with over 25 years of full time experience behind the console, I've got 40 plus years part time myself,) and we're open 24/7. That's also not cheap. If it's a guy who made this his hobby, recording in his basement, $30/hour IS probably too much to pay him.

As far as PC recording... Use your mic in if you want. Like I said, I don't really care what you do to your own PC. Run it through a pre or mixer too, just to make sure you have the full voltage of a line signal going for ya. (This is sarcasm!) That little preamp loves to get voltages that exceed its expectations. There are so many variables for that mic in. It may work, though somewhat poorly, for you. Like you said, you wouldn't use it for a demo, so why use it at all? Unless you don'