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Original message:23 days 2 hours 34 minutes ago

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Iv'e got a rg350ex and was curious if there were any other fans on here.

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Reply:23 days 2 hours 21 minutes ago
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me one. Although lately I'm reconsidering

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Reply:23 days 11 minutes ago
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y you reconsidering? ibanezs are awesome, plus they have great tone.

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Reply:22 days 17 hours 10 minutes ago
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I'm not saying I'm not a fan of Ibby anymore. Just not a fan of MY Ibbys.

The rg270 is as terrible a guitar as one can get for a starter axe. Better get a plywood guitar and pay less so you have more cash to upgrade to a better guitar later. Honestly. And after modifying virtually everything there is to modify on it, it is still a mediocre instrument. The Epi SG I just got is far superior quality and a pleasure to play.
The AEL20 is also a rather dull guitar. My bro's yamaha for the same price is far nicer, and for a little more, my washburn is also much nicer.
As for the sound of Ibanez, I'm not a big fan of that modern sound. It sounds too forced. I like more natural-sounding pickups.

Don't get me wrong. I WILL get a better Ibanez when the time is right. Because I like the visual style of RGs. Or maybe an S...

And to be fair, I still like my SR305. I think it is a great piece for the price.

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Reply:22 days 16 hours 2 minutes ago
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Ibanez for me are fine instruments, I have a Jem and an RG 270. The Jem I use as my main guitar and is fantastic, its over ten years old now and kicks everything I ever played. Ive owned and sold an SG, American Strat and a Jackson Dinky non compare for me. The trouble is I don't gig it very often as it is quite flimsy nowadays! Like I say its been on the road ten years... Although now and again I gig at my solo gigs.

The RG I picked up for £200 and am total impressed! ibz I cant understand why you dis them?! Great tone, fast neck, good trem! Maybe you have out grown them while you have a new SG.... You`ll be back!!!

I plan on getting a JS 1000 at some point, they are fantastic guitars! AWESOME tones!

Anyway going to do my endorsement bit... Vintage guitars are cool!!! Try the VRS 100.

Seriously ibzRG if you like SGs you will love the Vintage VRS 100s neck...

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Reply:22 days 11 hours 49 minutes ago
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I have 3 Ibanez guitars and 3 Ibanez pedals, if this tells you anything. I have an SZ320, a Talman acoustic/electric, and an Exotic wood Dreadnought. Pedals; Tube King, CF7 Chorus/Flanger, and a Wd7 Weeping Demon Wah-(my favorite wah.) I tried almost all of the wahs out there from Tremonti's, which was close, to the 535Q, the Slash wah, a VOX, a Digitech Whammy pedal. At any rate the Weeping Demon is the best wah I have ever heard, hands down, and it's durable as hell. Love my Tube King pedal. It has a more modern sound, but i can get some old school, 70's distortion from it. Tried 3 or four different tube pedals. Anywho, I love Ibanez. My next will be the EP9 "Euphoria", if I can help it. Oh, and I was just given an Ibanez ATK bass. I had to fix the battery post, but it works now. I have to see about a new amp. Maybe an Ibanez Promethian.

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Reply:22 days 11 hours 48 minutes ago
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I'm thinking of getting a pgm100re soon. I've gotta save up some money first.

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Reply:22 days 10 hours 28 minutes ago
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@Greg:

Good trem??? Are we even talking about the same guitar? lol The single-locking thing never stayed in tune or came back to zero point. Never. It's why I have acquired a fear of using the whammy unless it is absolutely necessary. I swapped it for a Lo Pro and found my mental health. And no pro technician was involved in the swap so both trems are measured up based on my own ability to set them up.
As for the tone, the wood is totally dead. Zero sustain and resonance. I swapped the cheap stock pickups for expensive DiMarzios and it made no difference.

Now it could be just mine that's shit. But it cost 480euros new. I'd expect a better guitar for that.

I'm not saying I love SGs in general. I'm just saying the sg I have has way superior resonance and sustain than my RG. With today's exchange rates this SG new costs about the same I paid for the RG. Both korean guitars.

And I forgot to mention the rest of my ibz gear. :)

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DE7 never get's used because the built-ins of the amps so far work out better for me.
AW7 not much use for it but I can get some pretty cool growls out of it.
SM7 can sound good or horrible depending on the amp
WD7 pretty good wah. Works wonders in clean, but totally lost under heavy dirt. If I had to keep just one wah it would be my crybaby classic.

And I have an ibz amp.
The TB15R : no good. The dirt is entirely not my style. The cleans are workable although kind of boomy. Zero tolerance to pedals though. It becomes a harsh fizz fest.

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Reply:21 days 16 hours 49 minutes ago
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Interesting points RG, I have to say I have never had a problem with the tuning on mine! It comes back nicely and always sits level. Tone wise I never felt the need to change the pickups....They ain't what I would call high gain, but they are very versatile, great for live shows. I can actually control the guitar with great ease and I put that down to the pick ups.

SGs are very cool though man! Great tone as well, they look damn cool to! I had the classic Cherry Red standard around 5 years ago... I really regret selling it now... Nice guitars.

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Reply:22 days 9 hours 17 minutes ago
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I would love to have a guitar with a good tremolo, but most of the ones I've tried, that are in my price range, the tuning goes out. Any suggestions IBZRG? We are talking, $450-$600, when I save up. At this point I have been working on just buying a decent condenser, or monitors for my recording, and the money is even tighter since we bought a house.

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Reply:22 days 9 hours 3 minutes ago
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If it locks, it will probably stay in tune, until wear builds up on the pivot edge and prevents it from returning to zero. Then it will require some filing to smoothen the surface. Unless you get an original FR that are steel (or so I heard) and shouldn't wear. The RG350 seems popular. Or you can try the lower of the S line, although I'm not sure what the price of it is, but the roller bearings whammy probably has excellent return precision.
There are some things to look out for with regular floats. For instance a narrow/tight V-shaped grove on the stud and/or a thick pivot edge are very likely to bind and not return to zero. A wider more rounded grove and/or a thinner pivot edge will have less friction and better return to pitch.

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Reply:21 days 14 hours 40 minutes ago
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@Greg. It could be that mine is a complete dud. Or it could be that you got lucky.
I swapped the pickups because in my newbie ignorance I blamed them for the dead dull sound and the sucky distortion, when it was the wood's and the amp's fault. If I had to choose again today with my knowledge now, I probably wouldn't have swapped them. The dullness is also why I max the gain settings.
What year is yours? Mine is 2001, before they downgraded the RG270 to GRG270. The setup of the newer ones looks the same but I think they have changed stud design since then and with all the mucking about with their whammy designs recently it could be that the new ilts1 has also imrpoved over the old one. Another thing the pissed the hell out of me is that the balls of some string brands got stuck in the shaft under the fine tuners, causing random drops as the ball slided further in and it was impossible then to get the ball back out to restring. I employed steel nails to leverage the balls back out.

Anyway it's good to hear that the 270 is not always junk.
I'm probably being a bit too harsh on my rg though (well the whammy stuff is all true). It's because I can't really A/B it against the epi since we're on opposite ends of europe and because the epi came out just perfect and the only thing I need to replace is the crappy toggle that cuts out.

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Reply:21 days 11 hours 52 minutes ago
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ive got the rg350ex with the edge 3 trem. it doesnt go out of tune to fast, but it will eventually. just try to avoid using it to much and it stays longer.

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Reply:21 days 11 hours 43 minutes ago
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I remeber almost 2 years ago just a little bit before I got my Gibson SG, that I had the one Ibanez for 299.99 http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-RG2EX1-Electric-Guitar-103382115-i1167867.gc

I must say the neck was so damn fast on that thing, but there's a feel and tone to the SG that I prefer at the end of the day.

that being said Ibanez guitars are still kick ass.

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Reply:21 days 11 hours 29 minutes ago
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i was thinking about geting a 2ex1 but i got the 350ex instead. i just liked the hsh setup better.

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Reply:21 days 10 hours 28 minutes ago
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I prefer the S series. SZ, SZR, S, and the SA.

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Reply:21 days 7 hours 47 minutes ago
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I play a RG2EX1 as my current main axe. I know, they're cheap MII Ibanezes. BUT, with some extra money dropped on mods (locking gotoh gold hardware, Dimarzio DSonic / Air Norton pickups, Petrucci wiring mod, and a nice black abalone pickguard with matching truss rod cover to top it all off) it's an AMAZING axe. It NEVER goes out of tune, no matter how hard I play it. And I still haven't had the graphtech nut installed...

Eventually I'm picking up an RG7321FM for my 7 string. If it's anywhere as good as my RG2, I could sell all of my other axes and still be perfectly content.

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Reply:18 days 11 hours 33 minutes ago
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NegativeGhostRider ive also been thinking of getting an rg7321fm, im currently stuck trying to decide between that and the pgm100re.

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Reply:21 days 49 minutes ago
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I used to have an Ibanez Proline Series that was a neck-thru model with a body similar to the Jackson RR-1

I sold it a few years back and now I wish I still had it as it was one of the best guitars I've ever owned.

I was talking to the guy I sold it to and he still has it but says he doesn't play it much...probably just as well since it was apparently a rare bird (of what I could find out - only about 600 ever made).

I'm not sure if that's 600 exactly like it or if it was 600 including the bolt-on neck version; but I've only ever seen 2 other guitars like my old Ibanez and they were bolt on necks instead of neck-thru.

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Reply:20 days 16 hours 6 minutes ago
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I've got a RX170 from 1994 with a DiMarzio DP100 in the bridge and a 2007 AG95. They're both good and excellent value. I don't really like the DiMarzio but that's not Ibanez's fault. - there's nothing wrong with the p/u itself. It just doesn't work well tone-wise with the other p/u's.

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Reply:20 days 6 hours 42 minutes ago
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I've got an Ibanez AS-73. I like it for those times when only a semi-hollow will do. It also works through an acoustic simulator pretty well when I want to get all folksy and stuff.... (I know... but what's a guy gonna do when he doesn't have the real thing).

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Reply:18 days 10 hours 6 minutes ago
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My trusty and very faithful JS100bk.

There isn't a guitar I've played that just felt sooooo right. Never had a problem, only ever changed the strings, and it stays in tune no matter how much abuse I give the trem.

I have had it for about 15 years, and it's in mint condition. Even at my lowest financial point I couldn't sell it as I couldn't find another like it.

Says a lot for Ibanez I guess, or maybe its just this one that seems to work so well. I have played several other Ibanez, a Jem 555, a Jem 7VW, RG 270, RG550LTD, Universe, and many others too. Still haven't found one thats as good to play. Sure the Jems had better hardware as did the Universe, but something didn't feel right despite the necks being the Wizards. Maybe its just very well set up I guess.

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Reply:18 days 7 hours 47 minutes ago
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Father, I had a Satch. It was blue, one of the only ones of its kind, and I did sell it, like a moron 20 year old, who needed cash, would be. Been kicking myself every since. Maybe it was a little intimidating, playing "The Man's" axe, I don't know. But If I had it today I know it would be my favorite. But I have since been a stop tail player, and it's made me play vibrato with my hands, instead of the trem bar. Still it would be nice to have another.

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Reply:18 days 7 hours 45 minutes ago
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If the Gods are in my favor, one of these days the one that I want is the Ibanez EP9. Just look how it says, "Hey you, come play me. I look edible."

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Reply:18 days 6 hours 56 minutes ago
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It looks scary to me :D

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Reply:17 days 20 hours 26 minutes ago
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I saw an Ibanez acoustic at the local mom and pop store that was quite unique.

it was a hybrid acoustic/electic with a piezo pickup in the bridge and a pair of magnetic pickups and a hollow body with soundholes.

It had an onboard preamp that gave you options of acoustic, clean, clean and acoustic, drive, acoustic with drive, reverb and chorus.

For $1000 this guitar blew my mind... it could do anything. and, despite it's gimmicky appearance due to the preamp it sounded very impressive.

If I had the money for a second guitar right now, that would be a definate consideration.

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Reply:17 days 8 hours 14 minutes ago
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TDS, that would be the Montage, correct? I played one, but so far, I have heard mixed reviews, and they haven't worked out all the kinks. It is cool, but there are a lot of complaints with the actual electronics. New technology always has that issue though. Just like I am not going to purchase Windows 7th, until they work out the bugs.

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Reply:17 days 5 hours 28 minutes ago
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I use Windows 7, have had the evaluation copy for a great many months, not had a problem with it at all bud!! Seriously!! Yes the man that never fails to slag Microshaft is genuinely happy with something they have their name on.

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Reply:17 days 2 hours 44 minutes ago
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I think that's the one Frum ... like you said, all new technology will always have some issues at first. I expect if I ever do buy one, enough time will have passed by the time I start looking for it that they'll have the kinks worked out. The particular guitar I saw at the store did sound impressive though.

As for Windows 7, being someone who works in an IT related field for a living, I typically steer clear of any new software (microsoft or otherwise) for about a year or so before I jump onto it. That usually is enough time that all the serious bugs get fixed.

The only real exception to this is if I start seeing that particular software surfacing and it is within the support bounds of my job or is soon to be within those bounds... then I will usually procure what we refered to in college as an "educational copy" of the software in question and load it on my home pc to tinker with at my leisure...

of course, it figured with Windows Vista that I never had any issues with the software at home that wasn't caused by myself breaking it while tweaking it to be less of a memory hog. I'm expecting the same for Windows 7... I'll probably learn more about it helping my customers than I will from using it myself.

Possible explanation for the stability of Windows 7 for you FDM... they took the best parts of XP and Vista and combined them, and avoided all the things about Vista that pissed people off... like "User Access Control".

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Reply:17 days 2 hours 17 minutes ago
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Not sure why it seems to hold up well to be honest TDS, I liked the later versions of XP, SP2 and 3 seemed to have it running almost without any major hitches. Vista was a dog, a festering, puss ridden dog with 'The Dreaded Lurgy'.

Your right in saying that Seven has what worked best in both ( more so XP obviously ) and for once Microshaft listened to what the people were telling them. It works. There is still a fair bit of user input for the OS settings, in fact if you get deeper into it it is a literal minefield of possible "Gosh I've fucked it up again" scenario's. But I have found it to be stable thus far, its given me no concerns, and I would liken it to a shiny, bells and whistles version of XP.

And so I dont get off the Ibanez topic here I have used my JS to record on my PC using W7 and all is well. :-)

Is it me or are abbreviations becoming a little too common place in the English language? WTF?

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"Is it me or are abbreviations becoming a little too common place in the English language? WTF?"

Amen to the that FDM. Just thank your stars that when I start abbreviating the way I do at work I usually catch myself... Although I'm sure anyone who works in a call center environment might be able to figure out what I'm talking about or maybe some of the younger kids who do lots of texting, but it's quite cryptic.

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Reply:16 days 23 hours 50 minutes ago
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Did you know that some schools in England even put examination questions in 'text speak' so the kids could read them clearly? The English language is a dying art my friend, we are heading into a world that will be dominated by illiterate retards who cannot comprehend a basic sentence.

I was once accosted by such a moron on Myspace when I posted my version of the book of Revelations, it was seriously impossible to figure out what she was on about. I did get the 'Ul burn 4 that' part of it. Christians are wonderfully forgiving that way. Man it was a funny take on the Bible, it stayed sort of true to the main plot, whats the problem? Lucky I couldn't figure out what she typed or for once I might have been serious??? OMG. hahahaha

Kind of handy though because when they do rule the world they wont have a bloody clue what I've typed here and I will be safe from their wraith!!!!

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Reply:16 days 23 hours 20 minutes ago
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yes, those who rely soley on text speak will definately be at a disadvantage.... maybe my plot for world domination will become a reality after all. >:)

by the way, have I ever mentioned that I subscribe to the belief that Hendix's alien characters in 3rd Stone from the Sun are right about how chickens are the most intelligent life on earth?

Seriously... these people who only understand text speak are living proof that it's happening.

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TXT SPK BTHRS ME>:( PPL SPKNG WTHT VWL SNDS>:( AND NUN PROPR NGLSH. Every now and then I will throw a WTF, or a IMHO, but that is as far as it goes, I try and not cuss. Sometimes it is not possible, because I forget I am not actually talking face to face, and I start talking like I would anyone.

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Reply:16 days 38 minutes ago
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lol

that's very much how account memos here at work look, Frum.

It's one thing to type sentences the way you would actually say them... we all do it at least some of the time... but when people's reading and writing skills (including spelling) are so degraded that they only understand text speak, that's just sad.

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Reply:15 days 12 hours 30 minutes ago
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I agree. I watched my sister text her boy friend when he was standing next to her, and I said,"Can you not just turn to the left and tell him face to face? How much communication breakdown can a society stand? We are going to devolve so much we'll end up like the people on the movie Wall-E. Scary, yeeesh!!!!

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Reply:14 days 23 hours 58 minutes ago
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seriously.... they text each other when they are beside one another?

that's worse than what I was talking about.

also, even if they've got unlimited texting on their phones... what a waste of a text. LOL

Funny how the worlds most brilliant minds make such great strides in technology and science, but in the process all they accomplish is making the average joe dumber than he was before their great invention.

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Thats why the great minds stay where they are, because the potential competition is getting dumber than a second coat of paint.

I'm off to listen to Communication Breakdown by Zepplin and wonder where it all went wrong.

Oh, and just to piss people off, I actually fully punctuate and use the appropriate spelling in my text messages to people. They ask why I send a four page long text when in 'text speak' it would have taken one. I say, "Because I can."

So instead of " Hi. How R U. I am gr8. Wat u up 2 l8tr m8. Wanna go 2 the pub. Will C U l8tr at 7? TTUL8R"

I would put in " Hello and good evening. How is life treating you? Well I trust. Things are fine and dandy at this end. Would you like to meet later for a few beers at Katy Daleys bar, say around 7 o'clock? If so I will see you there. Talk to you later."

Really does get their knickers in a twist.

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Reply:14 days 13 hours 24 minutes ago
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Haha. I rarely text anymore. I don't think greek is very convenient for the development of a text-speak version of the language, but then again I have no idea what teenager messages look like nowadays. Back in my days, texts didn't look too distorted and freaky. Yes I would lightly abreviate words and meanings too if it meant sending one text instead of two (hey no unlimited texts back then). But yeah usually I type in sentences more or less completely.

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Reply:14 days 11 hours 17 minutes ago
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Speaking of Ibanez (eventually haha)........

This picture gives me both a severe man swelling and makes me sick to the stomach at the same time. Jealousy is a horrible feeling...

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Reply:14 days 10 hours 39 minutes ago
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As sexy as "f"s look on some guitars, I think they look fugly on RG's

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Reply:14 days 1 hours 46 minutes ago
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Ibz, I have to agree.

Looks like whoever took that pic has a Paul Gilbert obsession though. I bet those guitars sound awesome.

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Reply:13 days 22 hours 13 minutes ago
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I also bet that collection of PGM's is well over $30,000.......

Bastard.

Anyhoo, I'm happy with my Spear, T.C.Ellis and JS........unless he wants to swap?!?!?

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I find it's just amazing how many signature models these guys have nowdays.

When I was a teenager most artists only had one signature model on the market at any given time. The rare exception was Vai who had the Jem 6 string and the Universe 7 string models. The only real difference from one variation of each of these guitars to the next was the finish.

Now it seems everyone with a signature guitar has several of them on the market at once.

I guess it comes down to the way the music industry has changed... there's not that much money made from cd sales anymore compared to the past decades and the artist is making up for it by cashing in on endorsements. I guess Kiss are about the only ones not feeling so much of a pinch from this change as they've been marketing the living sh** out of their names and images from about day 1.

Crazy :)

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I have bin playing different RG guitars for years...never really considered trying something else until John Petrucci switched to Music Man .
I read the interview about this change and realised that the RG body was actually bugging me all this time , so I invested in a RIDICULOUSLY OVERPRICED Music Man JP model only to find out that the neck doesn't suit me at all and that I miss the "wizard".
Ironically , the "wizard" neck cant keep the tuning without the double locking system ,so long its head is equipped with "6 in a line" tuners. And that' pain in the ass. To make things worse , there IS NO wizard neck with 24 frets and "3 a side" locking tuners .

I guess my point is that the ideal upgrade to a Ibanez user would be a PRS custom 24 SE .
The neck on this thing is even better then the wizard neck by Ibanez ( for those who like it that way)
It is a PRS copy made in Korea or china somewhere but ,provided you replace the tuners , it really kicks ass.
Sure you could go with PR'S CE but those are even more overpriced than the Music Man. Honestly , the only real difference is the curved top on the guitar body , and I cant see the advantage in this ....the rest (pickups , tuners pots and the switch),you can easily replace.

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