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Original message:16 days 10 hours 22 minutes ago
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I noticed that Bugera makes a 2x12 cabinet. Only thing I'm skepticle about is that they use their own brand of speaker. Anyone have a Bugera cabinet? How would you rate the quality of the cabinet itself?

How do the speakers sound?

Of course, I realize sound is subjective and I might not like something that someone else recommends... for what this cab costs, eventual speaker swaps would be a consideration for me if the cab itself seems decent.

Normally I wouldn't post something like this; but I don't have any place that stocks Bugera near me, so I don't have a way of checking it out first hand. Apparently Long & McQuade carries Bugera, but my local store doesn't have them in stock.
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Reply:13 days 5 hours 53 minutes ago
Member: this dying soul
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It's been almost 4 days without a response. I guess nobody here's got a Bugera cabinet?

I know I've bitched before about the "what kind of guitar do you recommend I get" type posts; but this is more of an attempt to get info about a specific brand so I can make an informed decision rather than looking for someone to actually tell me what gear I should buy.

oh well.

I've been reading up on the user reviews over at Harmony-Central and seems the general concensus is that the cabs themselves are built decently; so it might be worth the risk of ordering one unheard. The only thing is, so far I'm not finding anyone who knows if the cabinets are made from plywood or something else.

If the cabinets are made of plywood and not MDF or Particle Board then worst case cenario is I swap the speakers for Celestions and wind up with something just as good as any of the more expensive brands and still save a few hundred bucks.
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Reply:12 days 23 hours 55 minutes ago
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Yea bro, I know no one with Bugera. I think the small price tag scares people away. (its does me). I see $499 for their flagship amp and I automatically think "what a piece of crap that must be". Its sad.

On to your rant about not getting a response. Google it man. You can have your answers in seconds.
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Reply:12 days 12 hours 28 minutes ago
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I think GuitarWorld or Guitar Player reviewed them awhile back
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Reply:11 days 13 hours 35 minutes ago
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thanks for that one Waltz. I think I have the issue your talking about. Their reviewing the heads and 4x12's. Assuming the 2x12 is using the same construction methods it might give me my answer.

I'll have to rifle through my magazines and see if I can find that issue... I think it was Guitar Player if I remember right. It's been a quite a few months if it's the issue I'm thinking of.
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Reply:11 days 22 hours 20 minutes ago
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I have the 4x12 cab and it actually sounds pretty good, and I have played the 2x12s and they are just as good also.
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Reply:11 days 16 hours 33 minutes ago
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i have the 2x12 tripel channel model. very nice amp. versatile. you can dial in just about any crunch you need. lots of bells and whistles. i would imagine the speaker cabs are pretty good as well. the speaker itself is the key. they all have a slightly different kind of twang. black widows,celestians, green backs,etc. all give off a different kind of growl. if you can,take your head to a guitar center and try out some different cabs. about all you can really do to hear some differences in cabs. too expensive to just trial and error by buying them all.
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Reply:11 days 13 hours 39 minutes ago
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thanks guys... have any of you figured out if the cabs are made with plywood or some other material?

Marshall2288 - I have tried google in the hopes of finding some answeres and that's the only question I couldn't find anywhere, not even the manufacturers site. I've actually emailed Bugera in the hopes of getting an answer. The small price tag is a bit of a concern, but since I've had experience with low priced gear that was really good quality before I'm still considering them if I can find info on the materials used. Understandably you can't expect the moon for such a low price, but the question is if they have the specs I'm looking for.

Harmony Central seems to have a lot of possitive reviews on the amps, no specific mention of the cabs as seems people using the cab are actually reviewing the heads.

bachmirage, you're absolutely right about it being too expensive of a purchase for trial and error. I figure if I can get a good cabinet, I don't mind shelling out a few extra hundred dollars to get better speakers later; but I may just go with the Traynor cabs... the more I look into them the better they seem (plywood cabinet loaded with Celestions). Their 2x12 model is roughly around $300 Canadian, I'm guessing the Bugera 2x12 would be about $235 - $250.
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Reply:10 days 19 hours 51 minutes ago
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I like the 2x12 - have only used one a handful of times, but I think Traynor is our little canadian secret. I would suggest going with that one, for a multitude of reasons, one being the warranty. Second the construction quality of yorkville stuff is great - and so is the sound. I know they aren't the same "name" but they are the same brand so I think this applies. The third reason is because not only do you know what you are getting because they put that info out front, you get a whole spec sheet right on the website that describes everything from impedance to speakers to wattage to weight. And if you don't like it, L&M will take it back no prob.
Reply:10 days 14 hours 52 minutes ago
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Thanks eds1275.

The more I look around, the more it seems I'm headed with that direction anyway.

So far there's been no response from Bugera/Behringer about the question of what material is used for the cabinet itself. I emailed Traynor the other week with questions regarding cabinet selection and impedance and what not since it's their head I plan to match the cabinet with and I got a response within 48 hours. Not to mention for what they give you the price is pretty good and their Unlimited Warranty is quite a bold statement.

If I can afford it, I might spring for 2 1x12's @ 8ohms each, but the 2x12 is definately easier on my wallet.
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Reply:10 days 13 hours 54 minutes ago
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I hope you sent that email in German cause last I remember they can't even write a decent manual in english lol.
Reply:10 days 13 hours 40 minutes ago
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lol - maybe that's why I haven't hear back yet... they're busy trying to translate my email
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Reply:9 days 19 hours 52 minutes ago
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Bugera are made by Behringer i think...thats why the low price tag, haven't checked em out as of yet, but behringer made some rock solid 4x12's at one time.
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Reply:9 days 15 hours 56 minutes ago
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Long & McQuade's rental department here uses a lot of Behringer stuff and the local L&M rental people don't seem very fond if it; but personally I've had experience with their mixers and Multi-effects (the rack units for PA/studio) and was quite satisfied.

Unless their standards have gone down hill since than I'm surprised that L&M have so many problems with Behringer gear.
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Reply:8 days 20 hours 18 minutes ago
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they are prolly gear snobs and don't like anything affordable....
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Reply:8 days 18 hours 31 minutes ago
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I am satisfied, thus far with the Berhinger Podcast mic and preamp. Though I have tried out a Bugera, and I just wasn't impressed. I am still in search of that warmth, and Bugera hasn't had it yet. I wish they did, because the price range is great. I think that I might have to look into the VOX NIght Train amp and cab. Warm and inviting.
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Reply:8 days 13 hours ago
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I finally got a response from Bugera/Behringer about the materials used to build the cabinet.

They're made with MDF (basically sawdust and glue pressed into a board). If I come across one while in one of my local shops I'd still try it and see if I like the sound it produces.

I'm hoping for something made of plywood. Based on research I'd done while considering building my own cabinet I've read in numerous places that plywood is better because the vibrations of the speakers get transfered through the wood better than in cabinets made of particle board or MDF.

The Traynor 2x12 is close to the same price and is made of plywood... so again the more I look at the different cabs on the market, the more I begin to feel Traynor is the way to go.
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Reply:8 days 12 hours ago
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Dont wait on a response from Behringer dude.....your clothes will go out of and come back into fashion by the time you get a response, if you ever do. Oh I see you did!? Well let us all rejoice in your glory heres why.....

I e-mailed them 3 times in six months, its now 8 months with no reply, Farlow had dealings with them too from what I recall with a similar outcome. Maybe they are starting up the Third Reich again? Explains the customer service levels on a par with Jeffrey Dahmers friendship ethics.

The worst thing is, they CAN get it right, and when they do no-one hears about it because it seems the general consensus is to berate them. So maybe you are missing out on something good, but my money is on the assumption you aren't.

Oh, try Youtube to see if there are any demos, I found several for lesser known brands and found some wicked little stacks and combo's that dont have your bank manager thinking your building an underground medical facility for your experiments...

Oh, and MDF is horrific, I have built walk in wardrobes and Multi-Media units out of it for customers and I fucking hate the stuff. It soaks up moisture like a 50 year old hooker and then just like said hooker slowly falls apart.. . . . .If it is sealed with a PVA based sealant then fine, but bare MDF is like thick cardboard essentially, so hmmmmmmm, I'm not sure it would take to well to any slight dampness in the air.
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Reply:8 days 11 hours 1 minutes ago
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Padre, the dampness suggestion is definately one of the things about MDF I'm wary about. I mean, if the tolex covering on the speaker ever gets damaged and moisture gets past it, the cab will surely rot not long after.

Particle board is not as bad, but even it is not very good friends with water (neither in liquid or vapor form).

Also it there's the common belief among the DIY crowd that MDF and Particle Board are inferior in terms of their ability to resonate with the speakers. The vibrations pass through plywood much better than these composite materials. (yes, I realize plywood is a form of composite too, but it's layers of solid wood as opposed to wood chips or sawdust mixed with glue)
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