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Original message:9 days 20 hours 20 minutes ago
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okay, maybe a weird question but here's the story...
A few years back I bought a Marshall dsl401 combo tube amp for somewhere around $699-799.
Now I see them selling new for $1199 and used for about what I payed brand new.

Does this make sense to anyone else?
Reply:9 days 20 hours 10 minutes ago
Member: duane
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prices increase.. it's part of the deal.. when new prices increase used prices tend to follow.

now the word of caution: do not even consider buying amps (or guitars for that matter) as an "investment". Unless you are VERY good at knowing trends AND being able to tell what has been modified (or not) you're swimming with sharks.

Buy what you like, if it appreciates then good for you..
Reply:9 days 20 hours 9 minutes ago
Member: Xarkzila
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Sure. Prices increase. So resale prices will increase along with new prices. SInce the value of your dollar has fallen, it will take more of them to buy the same thing. It's not so much that your amp is increasing in value. The value is the same, it's just that it takes more dollars to buy the same value.

Some gear WILL actually appreciate in value as the years pass. I see this all the time with vintage recording gear. Nature of the world monetary beast.
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Reply:9 days 19 hours 42 minutes ago
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Here's my story: I bought an Epiphone 7-string Les Paul Classic on close-out from SamAsh for $199. I now see used Epi 7-string Les Pauls selling for as much as $700 on ebay. Talk about an appreciation of over 300%! I'll never sell mine though.
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Reply:9 days 19 hours 39 minutes ago
Member: NoKindOfAMankind
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sounds sick... i've heard its good to buy a used guitar so this should be possible.
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Reply:9 days 19 hours 12 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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That depends on the used guitar. As for resale value it depends on the trends. I bought an Ovation 1861 Balladeer in 85' and I paid $600 for it. Today you can find an Ovation 1861 Balladeer for..$600. I don't know if the materials are different in mine or what. I had a guitar tech from Mars Music tell me it was worth over $1000 about ten years ago, but I doubt if I could get that for it and I don't think he knew what he was talking about. Those round backs were really hot in the early 80's but that was then. At that time Ovation was widely considered to be the best game in town when it came to acoustic/electric. If it had been a Martin or a Guild for that same price goodness knows what it would be worth today. I would say just buy what you want, what feels and sounds best to you. Play the hell out of it and don't worry, amp or guitar, about the resale value.
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Reply:9 days 15 hours 6 minutes ago
Member: bachmirage
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value depends on the makes and models, of course....older fender champ,twin,blackface,etc. amps from the 60's fetch big dollars if all original........i see those dsl401 all over the place in the $500 to $700 range. they have stayed about the same. there's a 401 combo on ebay right now for "buy it now" of $450...older marshall amps like the plexi's also hold and increase their value over time. as well as many boutique amps (Dr.Z, Diezel,some Orange amps,Bogner,Riviera ,etc.) but those are usually custom made and cost a boatload in the first place.....a lot depends on the production runs as well. tube amps come in different classes as well(class A, Class B,Class AB). and that will also affect the price and value over time. and as was stated, trends and artist endorsements play a role as well.......
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Reply:8 days 22 hours 29 minutes ago
Member: dcunning30
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I agree. It's hard to predict how things will shape out. That's why IMHO, just buy player guitars. If you buy a guitar as an investment, you never know how that will turn out.
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Reply:9 days 13 hours 47 minutes ago
Member: sallan
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I've got a Rivera TBR that SHOULD have increased in value, but has not, probably depreciated. It's all about supply & demand. I remember when the original ibanez tube screamer was all the rage for dudes wanting the real deal van halen mod for their marshall heads....the tube screamers were still on the market for $40, but if you wanted an original (like eddie used) you had to shell out $300 or more. So although my Rivera was $1,500 new (like 15 years ago), I've seen them here and there for 3-6 hundred. There is just no demand for them....so they can be had more cheaply when they surface.

Speaking of gear what ever happened to the 'toneking' (I think that was his nic?) the dude from the Chicago area that was like a mystery rock star poster at the old g.com, but he had like 4 of everything ever made that was in some way guitar related? Would love to hear his thoughts from that perspecticve.

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Reply:9 days 11 hours 49 minutes ago
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that's the other thing to consider....technology....newer amps have such a wider variety of distortion levels that they have eliminated the needs of some of the older amps. like the Deizel is a 4 channel tube head. the mesa boogie road king has several different tube configurations to represent various amp tones. the new van halen amp has three independant channels to work with. the new marshall head has three individual channels as well. so these advances in technology have limited the need to pursue some of those older amps thus decreasing the values of them.
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