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Original message:55 days 26 minutes ago
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Member: Fred Kraus

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I realize a player has to sit down everyday and actually focus on learning something new for a specific period of time, but people seem to have an aversion to "just noodling" as if it's something counter productive. I would think that by just sitting there, watching tv and mindlessly playing, you still hone your skills, and if nothing else, it helps to keep you familiar with the guitar, and help your dexterity, at least to some extent. True, if you spent that same amout of time actually focusing on a goal, you'd probably be awsome, but most people don't practice 8 hours a day either...
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Reply:55 days 17 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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i am of the opinion that "noodling" is fine. however, i would definately not call it productive. i find that it actually takes quite a bit of mental power to actually LEARN something. in fact, that is one of the things i go over in my new book. in fact one of the very first things, in the introduction section "how to practice CORRECTLY" im one of those people who does either one or the other, i either PRACTICE or just PLAY. and another thing that i am astrong believer in. if you PRACTICE for 45 minutes a day and really challenge yourself during that time, i honestly believe you can be an INCREEDIBLE guitarist. i say i "Believe" it because i dont practice NEAR that much (even though i tell others to) and i know if i did, i would be so much better by now after 17 years of playing. just my opinion. is that you with an ibanez prestige RG? do you like it?
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Reply:54 days 23 hours 48 minutes ago
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I'm of the opinion that it takes well more than 45 minutes a day to become even a good guitarist. Of course, that's probably only because I put in well more than that at least during my playing periods and I'm still mediocre. Lol. It also depends on what style you're trying to play. I'd like to check out your lessons and see what you've got going on.
Reply:54 days 23 hours 15 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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No, that's not me. I just picked that up out of photo bucket. I like it illustrate my posts for some reason.
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Reply:54 days 23 hours 17 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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yeah, it does take more time to learn if you practice like most people. shoot me an e-mail at this address: rizadchizad@yahoo.com

i will send you a copy of my rough introduction to my book, it describes my technique for "practicing" i think mine is a bit more in depth, and i expect a lot of a person. it would be great if you could do a little review of it for me. please keep it private though, i am not letting EVERYONE see this stuff.
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Reply:54 days 22 hours 54 minutes ago
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hey fred. shoot me an e-mail at rizadchizad@yahoo.com i want to send you some stuff to try out and review for me if you are still interested....
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Reply:54 days 22 hours 40 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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Satan, I sent you a text with my work email address on it. The one I have here won't let me in for some reason. I gotta' add more memory to this thing!
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Reply:54 days 21 hours 11 minutes ago
Member: duane
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no noodling is NOT a bad thing and can actually lead to some interesting "discoveries".

When I was "out among 'em" I used to do it all the time. Sit in the hotel and watch TV and play. That's how I learned "The Flintstones", "Theme from the Munsters", "KIng of the hill", etc..

When you're out there not a hell of a lot else to do. I don't really "practice" per se anymore. If something interests me I'll learn to play it. Of course.. I've been doing this for years so that helps. :-)

Reply:54 days 11 hours 42 minutes ago
Member: The Rocker
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I have spent a lot of time trying to develop my playing technique, some times its good to just pick your guitar up and bash out some riffs few lead lines and have a good time, all work and no play makes jack a dull boy. I do try and do the things they say you should. I always play warm ups and sequences before really going for it. most practise nowadays is spent working on my bands material, how crap would I be if all my solos sounded like exercises.

I do work on new things, but remember as you become an adult your attention to learning diminishes so really you may spend about 20 minutes if your in your 40s but you are really gonna have to focus.
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Reply:54 days 11 hours 36 minutes ago
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Noodling is good for creativity. Trying out different stuff, occasionally you stumble on something cool and one thing leads to another and you make a tune/song/something.
But it won't advance your technique nowhere near as quickly as systematic practice.

I find focused practice extremely boring. So I only noodle. The result is that 6 years after picking up I'm only as good as some people become in just 1 year of systematic practice. I don't care. It's not a competition.
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Reply:54 days 11 hours 28 minutes ago
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It isnt a competition Ibzrg, its about expressing yourself. the thing with playing scales all the time is when you come to solo, you play scales, I had this problem and its taken a long while but I am starting to get it now.
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Reply:54 days 10 hours 45 minutes ago
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I prefer to know the scales in my head rather than in my fingers. It may take me two days to write a solo but at least my fingers won't default to zooming up and down the scales. When practicing scales it's important to also practice shuffling the order of the notes, otherwise scales will become more of a problem than a solution.
Occasionally I do practice scales. But I focus on visualizing and remembering their pattern on the fretboard so that it is available for use rather than practicing speed and stamina.
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Reply:54 days 10 hours 35 minutes ago
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You're putting yourself down...

You are very good
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Reply:54 days 8 hours 11 minutes ago
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All I said is that it took and still takes me a lot more time compared to those who practice in a focused way.
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Reply:54 days 5 hours 3 minutes ago
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