Of course I do. Is it music I spend much time listening to, No, but it is a valid form of musicial expression.

Can't spell crap with out rap son.

What is a concrete definition of music?

Is tribal music music? Is stomping and brooming music? Is jazz music? In most definition-attempts of music you'll probably find it involves human-caused sounds that conform to a rythm of one sort or another (even if jazz often challenges that). So yeah, rap has to go under music too.

i guess it is considered to be a form of music, but it is not entertaining at all to me.

I personnally think the beastie boys are the ultimate Rock/Rap artists.

Love their songs and I actually think they harmonize their voices really well - in a rap kind of way.

Plus, they can play instruments when it's required.

We get it in the studio sometimes. Easiest recording sessions EVER! Is it music? Yes. Do we like it? No. It is, however, a form of musical expression and has a pretty big market as well. From a money point of view, it's big music. From a personal point of view, it's become stale and ordinary and isn't evolving.

I'm not out to start a new tread but I find it interesting that Xark doesn't feel Rap is evolving. Now I may be wrong (and please correct me if I am) but wasn't Hip Hop an evolution of Rap and it has influenced music at a lot of levels and continues to evolve. So to hear someone say that Rap has stopped evolving makes me wonder where the master of the form is that will move it forward again because it will need to move forward and sooner or later will. Rap can possible trace its roots back to ancient storytelling and has now arrive as nothing more than American street music. The Blues of its day if you will.

for me rap is talk radio put to a beat. i'd rather just listent o talk radio...it's more interesting than rap.....lol

well i used to be heavily into rap music, but also got to kno the inner side of rap. so, summing up an extremely long story, in my life, i found that the music itself isnt so bad (i dont really love it, but i cant say its shit), but the stupid side of it that i hate is the whole rap environment. some individuals are really into the whole gangster thing, as was i, and its such a bad thing, people getting shot, raped, and im not saying that rap gave birth to this, but some rap encourages it, or even finds it amusing. i just hate that environment, which is partly why i got sick of the stupid blindness of that old life, and opened my eyes.
SO, as for the MUSIC of rap, some isnt too bad.
BUT, as for some of the shit it encourages and environment it creates, is just disgusting

As a musical style, I like rap, but like Sawa_Rhythm indicated, I hate the hip hop culture. And since hip hop is central to rap, I stopped listening to it. Well most of it, like 98% of it. And since hip hop has infiltrated into the NBA, I stopped watching pro basketball too.