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Original message:68 days 18 hours 22 minutes ago
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Member: pinsone
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do you think it should exist?

how do you feel about rap

do you believe any of it is good or do you see it as noise
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Reply:68 days 17 hours 33 minutes ago
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Reply:68 days 13 hours 21 minutes ago
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Reply:68 days 13 hours 13 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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Well, I think asking if rap should exist would be pointless because it does. I never cared for rap at all, but that's me. It always sounds like some angry guy yelling. It lacks a melody, and that's a problem for me. Sometimes rap is mixed with a melody, I don't know if that's "hip-hop" or what. I recognize it as an art form, but it's not my thing.
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Reply:68 days 12 hours 55 minutes ago
Member: Erk
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I couldn't care less that it exists. Folks can listen to anything they want. I don't like much of it but most rap fans don't listen to the stuff I listen too. Which is fine with me, it's a big world with lots of people on it. If everyone liked the same thing it would be large, boring world. There is lots of music out there that causes me pain on a deep level to listen to, so I don't listen to it. What others want to listen to is totally up to them.
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Reply:68 days 8 hours 20 minutes ago
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Rap has it's place, but I don't think it should mix with rock...The record companies will tell you that it should though.
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Reply:68 days 7 hours 16 minutes ago
Member: Danno
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That was a bad idea from the start. I've never liked any of the rap-rock bands. Rap has it's place I suppose. I lot of it seems to promote racism and violence. But that's just my impression.
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Reply:68 days 5 hours 40 minutes ago
Member: Johnny
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i have said it before ..............

if rap was all i could ever hear i would stab out my eardrums with a dull knife ..................
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Reply:68 days 4 hours 46 minutes ago
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I'm open-minded, probably because I'm not subjected to that music much anyway.
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Reply:68 days 4 hours 33 minutes ago
Member: pinsone
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i don't much mind it i do like some rap but none of it is recent besides lil' wane and i have only heard i feel like dyin'

i do like the roots though
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Reply:68 days 2 hours 52 minutes ago
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It looks like it is not a popular opinion here but I like most any music (excluding Broadway musicals), including rap. The question I debate is can you consider it art or music. I give it credit for being both, despite the regular reuse of other's music in their production. Music is just melody, rhythm and the expression of ideas so it qualifies. It may not be to your liking but the voice as a musical instrument can insight just as much feeling and emotion as a guitar or drums.

As for the cross-over rap/rock songs, it can be done right or done aweful. I love the start of it all with Run-DMC and Aerosmith, and Jay-Z & Linkin Park did a good one with Numb/Encore. Other crossovers are hard to listen to at all (Talking to you Maroon 5 & Rhianna). It all hinges on the production and right now there is nobody who does it better, IMHO, than Timbaland. The man has a knack for transmitting emotion regardless of the genre he is producing.

If you have seen the history of Gibson (on documentary channel) they talk about the success of the English invasion, started with the Stones, Clapton & the Beetles, is due to the Disco/Rap movement which black youth jumped on and left blues from progressing so others embraced it. This allowed for the guitar, and rock, to become categorized as a 'white thing' and only few black artists have come back. I wonder if this has anything to do with the guitar solo and lyrics taking preference in rock over the rhythm, which is a much stronger part of disco & rap.

I would be more furious about the template pop band being created than rap. Right now the only one that comes to mind is Hanson and most anything Disney touches. This concept of giving boy bands instruments to play and pushing out an album drives me nuts. It is a sick combination of pop music, cotton candy punk and all-ages shows. When you make an art a science, you loose the emotion.
Reply:68 days 2 hours 20 minutes ago
Member: Richey
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Yeah...my 12-year-old is all into this Camp Rock thing on Disney channel. I heard some of the music and it isn't rock at all. It's the same Disney kid-bop-pop stuff but now some kids has strapped a Les Paul Custom on so I guess that makes it rock.
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Reply:67 days 22 hours 35 minutes ago
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There have been lots of good rap and rock bands. 311, RATM, Phunk Junkies, Eminem, Mc 900 Ft. Jesus. I have always thought of rap from back in the Medieval times, when the jesters stood and spake poetry, for the King and Queen. That is all Rap and Rock is with a little music behind it. Hell, Think of Jim Morrison, and his lounge lizard record type shit he did. there are some good ones.
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Reply:67 days 18 hours 1 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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I just can't get into it. But then again, there's a lot of musical styles I can stand. I never did like the old C&W, except Johnny Cash, I thought he was pretty cool. I hate Opera. I managed to live through Disco, and I despised that crap too! I'm just a Rock n' Roll guy, pure and simple.
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Reply:67 days 17 hours 52 minutes ago
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As much as I don't like rap, eminem has some funny shit!
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Reply:67 days 4 hours 22 minutes ago
Member: Johnny Frusciante
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