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Original message:90 days 18 hours 52 minutes ago
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Member: SATAN
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ok. are you liberal or conservative, and why, and why do you think the other guys are wrong? this is completely harmless, dont go overboard and try to respect other peoples views (but that doesnt mean you cant try to change their minds!)

here is my view:

the DEMS: always very good at economics. they seem to bring us back from a slump very quickly and that is great. however, their complete lack of giving a damn about our military strength, paying off countries to leave us alone, and tendency to want to turn our constitutional rights into mishmash makes me want to hurl.

the conservatives: love their support for our military and their ability to stand their ground on important international issues concerning our country. but.... STOP BRINGING RELIGION INTO OUR GOVORNMENT! issues like gay marriage should not be shot down by govornment, which is supposed to have a clear separation of church and state. the views expressed by them on these issues are all based on religion. and that is bull. and abortion as well. GAY PEOPLE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO RUN AROUND THE STREETS TRYING TO SCREW PEOPLE IN THE ASS! so no one can tell me that they are TRUELY AFFECTED by the fact that people are gay.

im a moderate..... can you tell? go at it g.comers!
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 40 minutes ago
Member: Hale
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I'm liberal. I like how democrats generally are for universal healthcare. Republicans are usually not. I agree with you on the economics issue. The government shouldn't even bother with religion, since it should be a personal choice. From what I've read, Sarah Palin wants to have schools teach creationism (spelling?). That implies religion...
Gay people should have the same rights as straight people. That's all I'll say on that issue...
And making abortion illegal isn't going to stop people from doing abortions.
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 38 minutes ago
Member: NegativeGhostRider
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I like to think of myself as middle of the road, leaning more towards the conservative side.

I agree with a lot of the stances that both parties take, but some things I just can't accept. Mostly from the democrat side. i.e., abortion, same-sex marriage, etc etc.

I also think extremism in either case is completely wrong. To me, the ACLU can be insanely leftists to the point of being ridiculous sometimes. At the same time, hyper-conservative organizations that teach people it's ok to bomb abortion clinics are even worse.

In response to your gay stance...no, it doesn't hurt me. I have gay friends. I don't agree with their lifestyle, and they know it. But we can still be friends even in the midst of disagreeing on an issue. To me, realizing that human beings are more than just the sum of their political, religious, social, and ethical views is a big key that we miss out on. People are so quick to get angry at "flaming liberals" or "bible-beater conservatives" just because of the title and nothing else.

I took a vow to uphold and defend the constitution, so in whatever manner it is being interpreted, I will defend it as such. I'm in the military, and some people hate us and even spit and throw things at us (really stupid, since we are the guys with the automatic weapons...). I don't like that they do that, but outside of the spitting and hitting, they are perfectly within their rights to express their dislike of the military, and I will go to my grave to make sure they continue to have that right.

I just hope people realize that somewhere, sometime, there's someone who died to make the world a safer and more free place for them. DE OPPRESSO LIBER.
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 35 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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yeah. i understand people have their own views on gay rights. i just dont think it is right that the govornment wants to hold them back so much. we are not all going to turn gay.
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 31 minutes ago
Member: Steve Aguilar
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What this guy said :D I love lewis black funny as hell
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 24 minutes ago
Member: Leif
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it depends on the subject...if its drugs and prostitution i'm a liberal...if its capital punishment i'm for it. Gay people should be able to get married and butt plug each other anytime they want....I think abortion is murder but i think it should also be legal and so I am prochoice/muder. Yeah its murder but it should be the woman's right to kill her own baby if she wants to. you want to bring another unwanted child into the world? i'm all for stem cell research...etc....i guess i'm only a conservative with the exception of capital punishment thing...i'm 100% for the middle class and 100% for the environment and yeah global warming exists and we as a human race are responsible....i am also for alternative power. we really do not need to use up resources when alternatives can put us on the map and also ensure natural wild life, ozone etc.... solar power!!!!!!wind!!!!! we don't need gas or oil...

i'm a kick ass liberal..anyone gotta problem with that?..i'll kick your conservative ass back to the bible belt!!!!(just kidding about this) but religion has no place in politics....and yet it seems to have the most profound effect on voters...get educated and vote for the real issues.. who cares if your gay and want to wear a dress and get married...we got real problems...

yeah SATAN!

on that note, i am not going to post anything else because some A-hole conservative is going to give me @$@$@ !!!!!!!!!
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Reply:90 days 15 hours 21 minutes ago
Member: Erk
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Killing babies is ok as long as they're your babies???? What world does that make sense in?
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 19 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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haha. go leif. what are your thoughts on the war and the ilitary though. 2 huge issues you diddnt sound off on......
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Reply:90 days 18 hours 10 minutes ago
Member: Leif
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the war is bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we don't need to be in iraq! you want to start another viet naam for no reason? Palin is like saying thats waiving the white flag...what is this about ego power trip? hey its 10 billion surplus we've spent and this country is owned by japan...you want me to fight for my country..i'll do it here!!!!!!!!..i support my troups so long as they are fighting to protect us...but its another wasted war....diversion from other issues etc...i'm sorry but iraq is no threat and we could have gotten Osama along time ago..Iraq is bull and now were what heading for a new depresion? We should legalize pot or something LOL!!!!!! Bush screwed this country in the ass and he should be tried for treason... If this country goes through a depression then Osama got what he wanted...and maybe he's smoking a dubie with bush or something because the whole thing is rediculous...

I guess the conservatives will like one thing about Obama, they will still have a black man to clean up their mess.....(LOL i just saw that on tv)
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Reply:90 days 1 hours 56 minutes ago
Member: NegativeGhostRider
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"i support my troups so long as they are fighting to protect us."

Lame excuse for not supporting them now. You can not support the war, and that's fine, but it's the troops who vOLUNTEER for service that keeps you from getting drafted to do the same thing.

In that sense, we are always fighting to protect "us".

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Reply:90 days 17 hours 32 minutes ago
Member: bachmirage
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well i lean towards the dems. i can't stand palin. she makes me ill. i will leave it at that. i'm sure once DC sees this, he'll post his usual 100 fox network links to reasons why the republicans can walk on water. so to avoid the conflicts that are sure to ensue henceforth, i will just sit back and watch the fireworks.....
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Reply:90 days 17 hours 22 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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that picture is no different than normal straight person porn. thus. you are still needing to search for a good example.
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Reply:90 days 17 hours 20 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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Yeah, but that was done out in the open on a public street. If a heterosexual couple did that they would be arrested, would they not?
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Reply:90 days 17 hours 16 minutes ago
Member: SATAN
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yes, but if these guys did it they would as well. the outright law against indecent exposure does not budge just because you are gay. by the way, i agree with a ton of your other views. and i love the "pray for peace, but prepare for war" thing.
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