yet another reason i say that unions and union workers are one of the stupidest things that are allowed to happen in our country. if you dont like what happens at your job, shut the hell up and get a new one. this is one of those times that i really want to swear in every damn scentence that i type because unions piss me off in every way. screw the writers. maybe they should stop writing things to make actors look good and write a book on what it is like to be a complete moron and go on strike for so long that they will never gain back what they have lost. they are a disgrace to our country and every single last one of them should have just been fired and make way for a new generation of writers... the would probably write better stuff anyways........ sorry dcunning, i diddnt mean to ramble in your thread! lol.

How many TV shows are well written? A handful at best? That would mean most of those on strike are mediocre at thier jobs at best and want to be paid more for it. Geesh!

To dismiss unions out of hand is displaying a lack of understanding why they were created in the first place. If their time has passed, and it may have, just hold on they will be needed again in the future. If you disagree with this I applaud your faith in corporate generosity.
So fire away, I have made myself as big a target as you are ever going to get.

+1 cunning, some people just know what the hell i am talking about, and i am sorry to tell you, but when it comes to unions, you are on the same level of thinking as SATAN.

I work a union job, but I refuse to be a member. They're a bunch of self-serving, rabble rousing, jerks. Period! Where I work it's damned near impossible to get canned, unless you go far beyond breaking a simple rule. This has led to workers that don't really work, but just show up each day. I've gotten yelled at by the union for doing 3-4 times as much each day as my counterparts, and you guys see how much I post here, so tell me, is this union serving this company AT ALL?

Don't get me wrong here, if I need a plumber or electrician, I'll take the union guy over a non-union guy any day. That's because they've been trained to do their jobs a certain way. We get no training from the union here and it's the same for many different locals that are not "trade" unions. They take our money and tell us what to gripe about, who to vote for and how to get your dumb ass out of trouble when you actually deserve it!

Not ALL unions are worthless, but there are a LOT more of them now than there ever have been in the past.

Add to that... For 10 years, I've outworked every member of the group I work in. For 10 years I've gotten nothing less than 100% on customer satisfaction surveys. (Group average is 67%, with mine in there bringing their average up.) I work every special project. I have become the "go to" guy for what I do. YET... I'm still in the same position because the union doesn't have any interest in losing my dues and doesn't have ANY kind of plan for advancing our positions. in other words... Their goal is to keep us dumb and happy and RIGHT WHERE WE ARE! It doesn't benefit them in the least if you're a great worker as it just makes the tards that make up the bulk of the membership look bad. So while the company looks closely, the union sabatoges as they can to keep their control.

Useless, useless, useless...

Even when I did work in the trades I saw union things that would just make me laugh. On one job they needed to move a safe to the upper floor of the project I was working. Almost 20 minutes they fought with this monster, getting it up the stairs. They were one step from the top when everyone's watch started beeping. You guessed it, break time. Here's what you won't guess... It's a violation of the union rules to continue working during your break. Even ONE STEP is too much. They lowered the safe back to the ground floor, in about 30 seconds, dropped their tool belts and walked out. Now there's union cooperation for you!

Recall the longshoremen strike about 3 years ago. Why did they go on strike? Because the companies wanted to automate the process. The longshoremen didn't want no stinkin computers on the workplace. They're rather do it manually. The proper solution would be to automate the process and either retrain the employees and/or pay for their education should their job become obsolete. That is how companies handline obsolete jobs all over the country. But the longshoremen union rather keep the job using old-fashion and inefficient process.

Kickbacks drive the union world. There's a LOT of that with longshoremen and teamsters. Would you sit back and watch a job that pays you a lot more than you're worth, in addition to probably making at least your yearly salary, (tax free of course,) turn into an automated system that's going to reduce your income by more than half? Of course not... Neither did they!

well there