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Original message:99 days 10 hours 37 minutes ago
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Okay, so my PC is dying and I've been playing around a little bit with a friend's Powerbook, but nothing really music related (ie I've heard of but not used Garageband).

I'm thinking of switching sides and getting an iMac as I mostly use my home computer for music recording and everyone seems to be into Macs.

I'm not a pro and while I'd love to make pro-quality recordings, I'm not going to be rushing out to get high-end mics, expensive software etc. What I want to do is use something like Garageband to fool around with demos, song ideas etc. Currently I do all that kind of stuff manually using a basic wave editor, freeware drums etc. It's cumbersome and the final result isn't great. I imagine basic Mac stuff will sound better..?

On the hardware front, will I need anything other than the iMac itself? I've been looking at the 20-inch 2.66GHz 2GB. My friend with the Powerbook said that I might need a signal booster as the mic is actually a line in, and I use both emulated line-out from my amp and an acoustic mic for vocals. Is he right in which case does anyone have recommendations?

I've seen that Garageband comes as standard but then has additional jam packs. Are these worth the money? My inclination would be to get the Rhythm pack as it sounds like it can do drums and bass (which I can't). Worthwhile?

Thanks for any input!
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Reply:99 days 6 hours 43 minutes ago
Member: Richey
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I would like to know about this to so if anyone has any input speak up!
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Reply:99 days 6 hours 20 minutes ago
Member: jobabrinks
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Garageband comes with work Mac/Powerbook, but youre going to have to get a Firewire interface, MOTU or MBOX or something. I tossed this idea around for a long time. A lot of the reasoning behind getting a MAC for computer recording is that Macs dont get viruses as often so run optimally. Firewire is better than USB too. That's another reason. Whatever the case, it's good to have the laptop you use for recording to be dedicated to that. So your work/home/surfing CPU would be another unit. So youre spending sat $1600 for a Macbook, $400 for an interface. That's $2000 for a setup. You can get a PC for cheaper and it will probably work just fine.

In my own opinion, I used my PC for recording and it frustrated me to no end. I had issues with sync, and latency and software crashes because recording programs take up so much memory. I eventually gave up before I really even got started. I have not interest in recording for it's own sake, just to get my music on tape. If I had the money to pay a lackey to record me every time I wanted to, I would.
Reply:99 days 6 hours 8 minutes ago
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a lackey...or a henchman...whichever oppertunity presented itself.
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Reply:99 days 5 hours 55 minutes ago
Member: JackFrost
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I never experienced latency issues as I was never using a monitor. With my PC soundcard I was able to playback and record simultaneously, then I'd manually match the two tracks. Dumb, but it worked. I never even really used a sequencer, but I'd like to change that so that I can mix/balance multiple tracks independently without having to mix down before adding more layers.

If only I had a henchman, things would be so much easier.
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Reply:99 days 5 hours 22 minutes ago
Member: Richey
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If I ever get a henchman, I want a dwarf...or even multiple dwarves so I can shoot dream sequences and the fact that they would contain dwarves would mean that they are, by nature, weird.
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Reply:99 days 5 hours 16 minutes ago
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The only time I experienced latency was when I built a MIDI drum track, then recorded an audio guitar track. I now use Acoustica Beatcraft for my drum tracks. Just drop the wav file into the recording software, then go. I don't experience latency anymore. I prefer to stay away from MIDI. I guess I don't understand how to use MIDI enough to get good results.
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Reply:99 days 5 hours 8 minutes ago
Member: jobabrinks
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My setup was a Tascam-224 into what at the time was a pretty top of the line PC about 4 years ago. The software was Cool Edit Pro and Acid. The playing was about a half second behind the backing track. I fixed that but I had all other kinds of problems with crashing software, etc.
Reply:99 days 4 hours 8 minutes ago
Member: Leif
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well, i guess i'm the guy to talk to here because i record on a mac. Latency problems would more or less have to do with your settings and your unit. If your recording on a powerbook (which is fine but you can get a mac mini for 500 if your trying to save) you should invest in a firewire harware device...like motu.com OR even cheaper would be m-audio.com ...use firewire and you will have 0 latency!

I also use logic 8 pro which was just released. It costs more than garage band but it also is Macs pro authoring audio environment and is one of the best used by Peter Gabriel and many other artists. If you can't shell the money out for logic get logic express OR i may be willing to sell you logic 7 with the dungle to you..but i'll have to think about it.

bottomline, mac is excellent for recording, video and graphics and has an abundance of applications available from logic to manyh others..if your looking at garage band why don;t you step it up one notch and at least move to logic express? It just doesn't have all the bells and whistles as logic pro but for recording is still a good high quality affordable application.

People mock macs for their price but the fact is mac will save you money in the long haul because its based on Unix Darwin which is extremely stable environment., Th problem with pcs is there are so many third party parts and equipment you will have problems with virus's and other issues..My mac never broke down ever and it never crashes..As long as you odsx is set up correctly you have a well built machine made from quality parts.

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Reply:55 days 15 hours 17 minutes ago
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I record on a mac as well; Powerbook with Logic pro. I don't like the minis, the imac would work well for what you're doing.

Even if you JUST had a pod or something, you could line it in, so you don't NEED an interface, just an adaptor 1/4 to 1/8 which you can find for a coupla bucks at Radioshack. It sounded pretty good, and did the trick for me until I bought an interface (M-Audio Firewire 410, which I DO NOT reccomend. Get an Edirol if you're going for a firewire interface...

Garageband is pretty simple, but DESPITE that kind of simplicity it's very powerful. I recorded lots of stuff with just GB, and I loved it. The rhythm packs are very cool, apple loops enable you to drop loops in and mess with the tempos, and the keys (If it's a midi loop) of the loop. Betamonkey drumloops are my favorite for drums, Just drag and drop, and cut and paste, it's awesome. I also used Reason with GB, worked seamlessly. Microsoft office is available for macs too, so that makes it nice for the folks who ned to do some documnt work...

A mac enables me to do what I want in a big way without having to learn a lot of technical crap. Imovie for making vids, Idvd for making dvd's, iphoto for managing photos, and itunes for managing songs. I used windows boxes for YEARS, and just grew weary of the bloody maintenance... Software upgrades, OS upgrades, antivirus updates, driver issues, etc...


Anyways, just my opinion, good luck.

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