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Original message:143 days 14 hours 13 minutes ago
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Member: Kenny Baccus
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So, I'm interested in getting some sort of recording device. But I hardly know anything about the subject.

Advice?
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Reply:143 days 10 hours 32 minutes ago
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Reply:143 days 9 hours 35 minutes ago
Member: inablackout
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korg d-888 is a great unit with plenty of inputs 40 gig hard drive some effects. I hve gotten some decent results with it.
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Reply:143 days 8 hours 45 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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I find myself in the same situation. I want to start recording at home so that I can finally post some stuff here. I've never bought recording equipment before so I'm not sure what I need. The Boss BR-600: Digital Recorder looks really cool. At $350 it certainly fits my budget. If I were to buy that unit today, what else would I need to start recording other than the instrument?
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Reply:143 days 7 hours 44 minutes ago
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With the BR-600 the minimum equip you need is a guitar, cable, BR-600 and a good set of headphones.

For mixing and mastering you should send the output to a set of monitors and not use the headphones.

Pros for the BR-600 are;
- Onboard drum kit
- Bass simulator (play the bass lines using your guitar) (works ok)
- Input jacks for guitar/bass and two for mic's (all 1/4 inch jacks but comes with an adaptor for your mic's)
- Onboard mic recording (pretty good quality for onboard mic's)
- Tools for EQ'ing and Mastering your final mix or individual tracks
- Plenty of onboard effects to apply to your guitar or vocals. Easily customized as well.
- Sound quality is really good
- Small and portable. (6hrs on battery)

Neg's,
- Learning curve is pretty steep and the manual leaves alot for the user to figure out
- No power to your mic's that you plug in
- No hard drive. Records to 1 Gig Flash Memory Cards. (Not a big deal but consider buying a card reader for $8)
- No onboard CD drive. You have to export your mix vis USB to computer or use a card reader to export to computer.
- Power supply is not included

I havn't tried the other Digital Track recorders but I'm sure that many of these functions are common between the different ones out there. I've had my BR-600 for about 2 years and I still use it daily.
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Reply:143 days 8 hours 6 minutes ago
Member: Xarkzila
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I personally like stand-alone recorders.

When you're looking to buy you need to consider what it is you want to do. In my case I needed a minimum of 16 input channels with simultaneous recording on each. But then I'm recording groups and CD projects.

If you just want to record guitar and be able to layer tracks, two inputs are typically sufficient. To get the sound into your recorder you'll need a couple mics.

Dynamic mics are usually used for recording electric guitar. Condensers are generally used for recording acoustic. With a dynamic mic you just plug it in and go. A condenser requires phantom power to operate, so you'll need a phantom power source. Many small units will provide phantom power, but if not you will need a preamp or a mic that uses a battery, (like the AKG C1000S.)

Don't forget mic cables and mic stands.

You can use two dynamics on a guitar cab, but we usually use one dynamic and one condenser or a ribbon mic. No sense going into placement at this point. It's a bit of a variable anyway. Once you get the recorder, mics and accessories, I'm sure you'll have more questions.

Oh, yeah... You can record direct too and then apply guitar effects through the effects supplied with your unit. Many people are not all that happy with the sound they get, but you can start recording without mics to get a good idea of how it's all done.

And be careful! Recording can be a deep hole if you get hooked. I've spent about $70,000 on recording gear so far and there is really no end in sight.
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Reply:143 days 7 hours 54 minutes ago
Member: RuiOlasBrandon 's
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There are 2 ways here.
Buying a decent stand-alone recorder or buying an USB interface, so you can plug it into your computer.
Of course, then you'll need software (Audacity or CuBase will do it).
It depends on what you want to do (a good stand alone will allow you to record a whole band, a USB is only for one guitar so..)
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Reply:143 days 7 hours 4 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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I think I'd like the stand-alone recorder. I probably won't be using mics too much, but I'd like that option. I'm basically looking for something easy to use and sounds reasonably good. Once I get the idea of what I really want to record, I'd probably take it to and actual studio. I'm starting to see this as a whole new realm of financial terror.
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Reply:143 days 6 hours 35 minutes ago
Member: Chester Field
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Financial terror ! well put Fred.
I noticed that the Boss BR-600 comes with 128 meg memory card, that's about enough memory to record 1 - 10 minute track at 44.1khz 16 bits. You will need some memory to edit any track you record. Sure, you can buy larger capacity memory cards, so maybe that isn't too big an issue.
This Fostex ( http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fostex-MR8HD-8Track-Digital-Recorder-with-40GB-Hard-Drive?sku=240341 ) has a 40 gig hard drive, but does not have built in mics, so you will need a mic, or two, which is probably a good idea anyway.
I really have very little knowledge of stand alone work stations. I've been using my computer(s) to record with for over 10 years now, and have no intention of changing.
We are all amateurs, and make no bones about it, and mostly just goof around with our music, not taking any aspect of it all that seriously, just a little fun stuff to fill the weekends, and escape family responsibilities for a few hours, but if you're so inclined, here's a link to a few of our musings. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=587872&content=music
Reply:143 days 6 hours 13 minutes ago
Member: Xarkzila
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CD quality recording at 44.1/16 uses the following approximate memory space:

5mb per minute, per track.

If you record single tracks you're looking at about 24 minutes of total recording.

A stereo output is 10mb per minute as there are two tracks involved, left and right.

In the studio a typical full group project will run about 500mb for 20 tracks about 5 minutes long. That mixes down to 50mb for 2 stereo tracks.
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Reply:143 days 6 hours 20 minutes ago
Member: JTC
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for the BR600...

The 1 gig flash cards are about $17. I have two. I get about 15 compositions per card before I have to erase any data to make room for more. I typically end up with about 16 individual tracks taking up space by the time i'm done mixing but this varies by the song project. Capacity is not so much an issue. Just copy from the flash card to the computer and you have it forever. Copy it back to the flash card if you ever want to continue to work with that project.

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Reply:143 days 5 hours 54 minutes ago
Member: Fred Kraus
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I guess it's like anything else. For example, when I bought an acoustic guitar, I had to have a better one. Then I needed an electric and with that came an amp, with pedals, and cables, and stands, and more guitars, and another amp because tube amps are better because everyone says so, so naturally, I just have to have one, and by now I'm addicted to things I just have to have, but don't really need. I can see that happening here. I'll buy a recording device, then mics, mic stands, cables, monitors, then a digital turbo 8000 flash card flingamajig with a flux capacitor for better sound and hide-ability from the wife and....
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Reply:143 days 5 hours 46 minutes ago
Member: Xarkzila
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That's where I went. Spending a lot of money and buying a lot of stuff. Plus, I built a studio to house it all! My wife says I have the nicest "doghouse" in town. You can let it get out of hand very easily. In my case I made the decision that I would rather be recording than playing. Not that I don't play anymore, or record my own stuff, but I spend a lot more time recording other peoples work. Well, sort of... Now that I have a full time engineer to run the place, I don't press too many buttons any more. I'm actually more back to playing than I am to recording, but when I want to record, it's nice to have someone on the other side of the glass pressing all the buttons and adjusting all the settings.
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Reply:143 days 4 hours 35 minutes ago
Member: Chester Field
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Good catch, mono tracks are approx. 5 meg per min.
Haven't seen too many cd players that will play mono tracks though, so you'll probably end up with a stereo track eventually.