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Original message:138 days 7 hours 59 minutes ago
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Member: G_Barber
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I know some of us here on Guitar.com do a lot of home recording. I was just curious about what methods/equipment/software etc. various members use. My current setup is very simple. I connect my DigiTech RP350 directly into my PC running Windows XP Home via USB and use Acid Pro 6.0 to record. I also make fake drums with Acoustica Beatcraft and FL Studio.
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Reply:138 days 7 hours 15 minutes ago
Member: Leif
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Well I use Logic Professional. I used to be a Pro Tools guy during the 5.0 release and when i found out apple bought out logic I switched and have no regrets. In fact I love it. To connect I use a motu 828 and an maudio device. I use the firewire maudio more often now even though it has only 4ins and outs as opposed to the motu because it samples at a lower rate and it is actually noticeable. I am a big fan of the 828 but if i was to use one I would spend the extra cash and get the motu 828 mkII because the sample rate seems to make a huge difference on the overall quality even though you are still downsampling when you bounce to cd. I would never go below 192 especially for guitar and non digital instruments because you can really tell the difference especially when we went back and listened to older tracks recorded at 48. Usually I record on 4 separate tracks simultaneously with both myself and the drummer and then everyone else jumps in later to add their tracks. We mix first through our mackie cfx II first but we always record dry. I recommend always recording dry (with no effects)..Remember you can always add later but you cannot take it away. So recording and live are essential completely different animals and ten to 1 no matter how tight your band is you want to take your recording approach differently then your live.

As far as people who just want to lay their leads down to other tracks yeah acid loops are cool but if your on a mac like me you need something else. Logic Pro has a lot of built in capabilities to manipulate your own midi drum loops or you can use garage band..If you don't want to spend a lot of money on recording software and your looking for a cheap drum beat solution idrums is downloadable for 100. bucks (something like that)...Of course a step up would be to break down and get Recycle 2.0 which is perfect for mac users who need to work with loop sequences.

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Reply:138 days 7 hours 6 minutes ago
Member: shanejohnson2002
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I'll do what I have vs what I want:

What I have:

Palmer PDI-03
Sansamp Bass Driver DI (I wanted an RBI but this sounded just as good and was cheaper)
ART MPA Gold preamp

2x M-Audio Luna
2x M-Audio Pulsar II
2x Shure SM57

Boss BR600
Tracks edited in Audacity


What I want:
Palmer PDI-03
Sansamp RBI
4x ART MPA Gold
2x dbx 1046 quad compressor

4x Sennheiser MD429 (for snare / toms)
1x Shure Beta 91 (for bass drum)

Either one of these:
Roland VS-2000 series w/ mouse and monitor attachment

OR

Dedicated computer (Hopefully a mac) w/ M-Audio Delta1010 interface and Cakewalk, Cubase, or Pro Tools.
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Reply:138 days 6 hours 42 minutes ago
Member: evol666
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I am old school and I do all of my recording for home demo use. I have a Fostex 4trk cassette device that I use for tracking. Why? Because I *love* analogue tape. It is warm and saturates nicely. If you use high end tape, like TDK PRO (SM30s are my favorite), you cannot beat the sound quality. I haul the tape recorder up to my rehearsal space and record live drums and some mic'd electric guitar. To me, you cannot beat live drums and the sound of guitar through amp. Because I can only record one track at a time, I have gotten pretty good at single mic placement for drums. I then come home and mix down into Garage Band. This allows me to boost the over all level before mixing it to a digital file.


My wife promised that we would buy a Mac book soon, so I am thinking about the next step. Maybe a USB device so I can do multiple inputs into Garage Band and take my demos to a new level.
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One thing you don't do is let the singer have creative input on any fucking thing, because they're useless - Noel Gallagher
Reply:138 days 6 hours 2 minutes ago
Member: Leif
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Evol666, I'm just curious if you remix your analog files into garage band aren't they then digitized? I was wandering if you loose your analog sound when you remix since it becomes digital in the end anyway. Not real knowledgeable with the old school analog stuff so i was just wandering.



I also want to make one comment and I have to admit this is just my opinion so don't take it to heart.
Everyone mics there amps. I always recommend micing acoustic guitar (even if it has a plug) but my amp has direct out and personally once its digital there is so many things you can do anyway with things like AU (AUDIO UNITS) that allow you to fix your sound or get it close to maybe the vintage sound your looking for and you don't have to worry about background noise. I know you can use plug in compressions or software or hardware to get rid of the noise but i think it takes away from the tone. So I really thing the best thing is to go direct. It's painless and easy and if you really think about it once you get your recording to the computer its already digitized so even if it's miced a certain way for your desired effect you are still going to make eq adjustments etc. So bottom line i am a hard believer in going direct from your amp or use a direct out from your amp. It sounds like the tone of my amp it's just not coming out of my cabinet speakers and really once its in your software its going to be edited anyway.

Also, we use Roland V-drums for recording. I know some people already are thinking what an ass for not micing the acoustic drums but you know what, the end result sounds like a mic ed drum kit. My entire point to all this is I think the end result is all in the hands of the person who is doing the mix when your in post production. Of course the better the initial sound the easier it is to get a good mix but I think if you have a good direct out coming from your amp which provides the tone you like you will already have the basic foundation for the tone you desire. Why go for the headaches of constant mic placement and compression issues if you don't have to?

Of course for acoustic instruments (like acoustic guitar) i have to agree. The original tone is going to be much closer and have more ambiance with a mic or two then going direct out.

I just think for most things direct from your amp is less painful. That's just my opinion.
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Reply:137 days 22 hours 7 minutes ago
Member: evol666
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>>I was wandering if you loose your analog sound when you remix since it becomes digital in the end anyway.

Good question. Not that I notice because you are mixing to digital from a great sounding source.

I read your post and have no issue with it. Direct in recording, whether it is with an amp simulator, direct out, or V-drums is way more convenient. I would love a set a of V-drums so that I could do more of the recording in my apartment. The fact of the matter is that I do not have the money to drop on a set of V-drums and a nice amp simulator, so I work with what I have and what I know. To each his own.
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Reply:136 days 8 hours 40 minutes ago
Member: Chester Field
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At home, for my own little projects, I use a small 4-channel mixer (for phantom power) and either my Fostex 4-track, or Akai 4-track reel-to-reel to record guitar and bass parts. The guitar is mic'ed ('68 Fender Princeton) with a large condenser up front, and a small condenser on the back. The bass runs direct, through the mixer. Playback through a set of 3-way JBL's driven by a 100 watt Audio Source amp.

I take my tracks to the band room to record real drums, if necessary.

In the band room, mics used are Shure 57's and 58's, for vocals and guitar, bass is still direct, and a few other assorted dynamics for the drums. Sometimes, just for drum parts, we'll use three condensers, and a couple of dynamics. Then it's through an old 8 channel Fostex recording board, into a Layla 8 input interface, then into the computer. Playback is through a tube pre into a Crown amp, and EV 15" two way mains.
Occasionally we will run the tracks through the tube pre, and use those for the final mix.

The music recorded is sometimes good, sometimes not so good, but at least it always sounds excellent.
Reply:136 days 7 hours 21 minutes ago
Member: G_Barber
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This is great info...keep it coming.
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Reply:136 days 4 hours 23 minutes ago
Member: JTC
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I use a BR600. I love it. It does everything I need.

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Reply:136 days 4 hours 14 minutes ago
Member: G_Barber
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That's the Boss unit, right?
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Reply:135 days 11 hours 3 minutes ago
Member: JTC
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The BR600 is from Roland/Boss and runs about $350.

Glad you started a thread on recording equipment because this is what I'm interested in.
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Reply:135 days 6 hours 13 minutes ago
Member: sallan
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My DAW (digital audio workstation) is MOTU Digital Performer, which I run on a dual 1.8ghz Mac Pro. I use the MOTU 828MkII as my sound card, and a beringer 8 chanel board for outboard monitoring. I use Reason for my midi side...I have a Roland JV synth that I haven't used since I got reason, but it's part of the rig. I use a Kurzwiel digital piano for my controler, and lately have been favoring amplitube over micing my amps. I use Sure sm58 mics for vocals, and sm57's for cab micing.
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