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Original message:28 days 21 hours 45 minutes ago

Member: Jamie Jackson

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I'm running a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Mayhem, an MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay, a Dunlop Cry baby original, and an MXR 10 band EQ(And for the record, i used to be a BOSS only guy and have a DS-1, OC-3, Compression Sustainer, Flanger, and Metal Zone, until i opened my heart to other manufacturers, now my boss pedals collect dust!) I need the EQ MAINLY for the Twin tube pedal, and the Delay to effect all of the pedals equally, so whats the best chain from the guitar to the amp with these...Opinions welcome and appreciated!

Reply:28 days 20 hours 11 minutes ago
Member: bachmirage

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i'd put the cry baby last then the mayhem then the eq and then to the front of the amp. the delay should run thru the effects loop. delay sounds way way way better thru the loop. general practice is to have all time based efeects in the loop. allthough i prefer phase and flange out front...chorus(should you ever use one) should also go thru the loop. much better results...

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Reply:26 days 20 hours 6 minutes ago
Member: NCP

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there is no true correct way, it comes down to personal preference

my personal preference would be to put the guitar to the cry baby first, the mayhem second, then the eq then to the amp. If you are using a harmonizer or a chorus i would usually put them between the cry baby and mayhem since they work best with a clean signal then the phaser and flanger type effects. the delay is best in the effects loop.

So my signal looks like this...

Guitar-->wah pedal-->harmonizer/pitch shifter-->chorus-->distortion-->eq-->flanger-->phaser-->whammy(i don't have a reason for putting it here but i always do)-->Amp w/ delay in Effects Loop.

This is only my settings, you should arrange the pedals in different orders and see how you like it best.

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Reply:26 days 17 hours 38 minutes ago
Member: this dying soul

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I usually do my pedal setup the way Bachmirage described it, although sometimes I put my delay, chorus and other time based effects in front of the amp usually right before the amp and after the distortion pedal (if I'm using one).

Usually the only reason I switch this up is if I discover I've got a bad cable and so not enough cables to use the loop...I do find the putting time based effect in the loop sounds better, but when it's not an option I've found that putting them as the last effects before the amp is what sounds best to me.

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Reply:26 days 16 hours ago
Member: bachmirage

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the delay is the biggest change in sound. much more organic thru the loop. not as sharp of an attack. out front it really only serves for brief sgemnts of a song. but thru the loop, you can leave it on all night and it won't break up your playing as much like it does in front. even more ideal is one in the loop AND one out front for some dramatic passages....

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Reply:26 days 15 hours 41 minutes ago
Member: NCP

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bachmirage: do you use one delay in the loop and one out front? I am curious to see how that works, maybe in a video, because one of my friends does this and recommends it but i have never seen anyone else do it. I have not heard him play since doing this in his rig because he lives pretty far away from me.

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Reply:26 days 15 hours 39 minutes ago
Member: Russ Nordgren

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I need help, too. I recently purchased a Fender Princeton Chorus combo amp. I have a DOD FX 75C Stereo Flanger Pedal, a Digitech XDD X-Series Digital Stereo Delay Pedal and a DOD FX 20C Stereo Phaser Pedal that I want to run in the stereo effects loop to the amp. Would a bunch of Y cables be my best bet or is there some kind of box they could all be wired into?

Reply:26 days 13 hours 37 minutes ago
Member: bachmirage

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well i ususally just run my delay and chorus thru the loopon my bugera or marshall. i have another delay that i only hook up on rare occasions out front. and i only really use it for say dramatic endings to a song that i want to have echo for a minute or so. the delay in the loop makes for a subtle delay that doesn't overcome you or become bothersome. i can leave it on all night or just use it for solo's.

as for the fender princeton, y cables shouldn't be necessary at all. personally i would just run the phase and flange right to the regular input and simply run the delay thru the loop via two standard size cables. obviously you are gonna need about 4 decently lengthed patch cords. you CAN run all the pedals thru the loop, but i find that the flange and phase have much more bite thru the regular input. the cool thing about stereo pedals is that you can run an additional cable out of the stero input right into another amplifier and create a stereo effect with 2 amps.

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Reply:26 days 10 hours 45 minutes ago
Member: Russ Nordgren

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Thanks for the reply. I have run the pedals into two different amps for the stereo effect, but the Fender Princeton chorus is a stereo amp with stereo inputs. I want to try to get stereo effects from all my stereo pedals I listed before. (I will still use my Rocktron Deep Blue stereo chorus pedal as mono through my Peavey Windsor All Tube amp as there is no need for a chorus pedal on the Princeton) In that case would the Y cables work? My idea is Delay pedal, Y out to Flanger input, Y out to Phaser input, 2 cables out to the stereo input on Amp, and Y from stereo outputs back to Delay pedal.

Reply:21 days 57 minutes ago
Member: this dying soul

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I think by using a y cable on your pedals outputs to go the input of the next pedal you're actually reverting the signal back to mono again. That being said, you're better off selecting which pedal you want stereo the most and then placing the other effects either before that pedal if you want the effect on both inputs of the amp (or both amps if using a multi-amp setup) or placing the pedals after the stereo effect on either the right or left output depending on which amp/input you want the effect heard in.

or another alternative that would be very expensive...for each stereo pedal get another amp, send one output of each pedal to a separate amp and then have a common output that feeds all pedals into one amp.

Although not very common I've seen pedals that not only have stereo outputs but also stereo inputs too. For what you sound like you are trying to accomplish this is what you would need for each stereo pedal in order to have them all in stereo to one amp with dual inputs or to a pair of amps with every stereo effect being able to have true stereo sound. As long as your stereo pedal only has a mono input there is no way to get the pedals that came before it in the chain to have both their inputs go through it and remain in true stereo

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