Finally they both got here at the same time!!!! here are all of the points i want to make about the guitars in list format.... just to make it easier...
1- i got 2 guitars from different people.
2- they both sound absolutely HORRIBLE. but this is due to the pickups for the most part.
3- they look great. please see the pictures in my profile. the differences would not be noticeable to most people, unless you know gibsons really well.
4- they are heavy, a comparable weight to a real  gibson. i can not tell what kind of wood mina are made of because i got the zakk wylde onnes, and they are painted solid.
5- tone wise, i can not tell extreemly well what they sound like, but if you take away the horrible pickups, i belive they may actually sound pretty good.
6- nicks and scratches in some areas
7- if you get one, IMMEDIATELY REPLACVE THE TUNERS. i have never seen worse tuners in myu life... i have only played for a few minutres on each of them, but i can tell these tuners are going to break here soon.
8- as far as if you think they are worth there value, that depends. i got them to decorate my walls with,, and i think they are worth it for that. for a guitar thatr will be played constantly, i think it will work with about $200 worth of parts put into it, ptherwise, get yourself a real brand name one. please see my pictures and message me if you have any more questions....... but to tell you the truth... i really like the guitars. and to me, they were worth every penny. do not buy them from that guy listed on the original forum post though. get ahold of me and i will tell you where to go!!!